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Started by dawngorgeous, October 07, 2011, 05:17:16 AM

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dawngorgeous

Peace All,
I am wondering what everyone thinks about the rule of washing after sex.  Do people understand it to mean the hair as well?
Dawn.

Emil

Quote from: dawngorgeous on October 07, 2011, 05:17:16 AM
Peace All,
I am wondering what everyone thinks about the rule of washing after sex.  Do people understand it to mean the hair as well?
Dawn.

You mean to wash in order to purify yourself for prayer?

dawngorgeous

Peace Emil,
Yes, if you have sex and a prayer is due, do you simply take a shower or bath and do wudu or do you also have to wash your hair before prayer.  Basically, does cleansing yourself after sex for prayer include washing the hair?
Dawn.

Emil

Quote from: dawngorgeous on October 07, 2011, 05:45:32 AM
Peace Emil,
Yes, if you have sex and a prayer is due, do you simply take a shower or bath and do wudu or do you also have to wash your hair before prayer.  Basically, does cleansing yourself after sex for prayer include washing the hair?
Dawn.

5:6 O you who believe, if you rise to hold the contact prayer, then wash your faces and your hands up to the elbows, and wipe your heads and your feet to the ankles; and if you have had intercourse, then you shall bathe. And if you are ill, or traveling, or you have excreted feces, or you have had sexual contact with the women, and you cannot not find water, then you shall select from the clean soil; you shall wipe your faces and your hands with it. God does not want to place any hardship on you, but He wants to cleanse you and to complete His blessings upon you that you may be thankful.

First of all, cleansing yourself before prayer is more of a spiritual cleansing than a biological. If anyone proclaims it is only biological (s)he will run into alot of "what if" questions.
Allah asks us to perform the ritual of cleansing because he knows washing yourself with a material like water will in fact make you feel cleansed in both mind and soul. The spiritual aspect is evident in the verse above. Even if we do not have access to water, we are still commanded to cleanse ourselves using soil. If you were clean before, the risk of you becoming more biologically dirty after using soil (eventhough clean soil) are almost 100%. Hence, the spiritual cleansing is of more importance than biological.

Second, Allah tells us that it takes longer time to become spiritually ready for prayer if you just had sexual intercourse. This is true I believe. If I haven't had any for a long time but when I do, I can walk around with a silly smile on my face for days.......That is not the mentality I am supposed to have when entering a prayer, right? Therefore we are to "clean" ourselves from the lingering sensations of sex even deeper by taking a bath.

If you cannot achieve to get you spiritually ready for prayer by not washing your hair, you should wash your hair. If the sex wasn't that good and you can easily forget about it, you should still meet the minimal requirements according to the Quran, taking a bath. What that implies is up to you to interpret.

BTW, if anyone disagrees with above statement, please let me know, I want to learn  :peace:

BTW
Quotesex for prayer

Nice...... :pr


Layth

Salam,

Wiping the head is a must for ablution. So, I suppose a person can bathe their entire body (not the hair) but would need to wipe the head for ablutiuon to be complete.
`And when God Alone is mentioned, the hearts of those who do not believe in the Hereafter are filled with aversion; and when others are mentioned beside Him, they rejoice!` (The Quran 39:45)

dawngorgeous

Hi All,
I understand that we have to do wudu in order to pray.  What I am asking is:  when the Koran says bathe yourselves after sex, the assumption is still there that when you pray you will do wudu (including wiping the hair).  However, what I am interested in is, whether bathe yourself means wash your hair as well as the rest of your body.
Dawn.

Emil

Quote from: dawngorgeous on October 07, 2011, 01:24:23 PM
Hi All,
I understand that we have to do wudu in order to pray.  What I am asking is:  when the Koran says bathe yourselves after sex, the assumption is still there that when you pray you will do wudu (including wiping the hair).  However, what I am interested in is, whether bathe yourself means wash your hair as well as the rest of your body.
Dawn.

Salam Dawn

Are you looking for a yes or no answer? Because if you are there is none. Bath means bath, ok? A bath is very different depending where you are geographically. You are assuming that all people have access to excess water. You are assuming that past and future generations of all mankind will live in the same conditions as us.
Like I tried to explain before, the guiding of ablution is for your spirit mainly, not your physical body

WhereIsTheTruth

I agree with Emil totally, and layth explained very well that wiping your hair is required as a mininum. Dawn Seems ask a very sunni-type question: shall I wash my hair after sex? Can i wear jeans ? How should I have sex? Which time of the day can i have sex?'' in stead of using logic and the simple general rules in quran. That's properly the way all hadith books were fabricated and that's why the sunni need their scholers.
Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it

My contact prayer, and my rites, and my life, and my death, are all to God, Lord of the worlds.

Ilyusha

Salaam.

BATH means washing the whole body thoroughly, which should include the head and hair. In my understanding (from simple reason and common sense), when I'm supposed to take a BATH to fulfill the commandment I should wash sufficiently well all the parts of my body so that I FEEL it was a bath, not just ablution or wetting the body.


I find it so ridiculous about sunni imams telling people how to bath and what steps to follow, and that if a hair-length place remains dry the bath is 'rejected'.... !!!




Emil

Quote from: Ilyusha on October 08, 2011, 10:12:03 AM
Salaam.

BATH means washing the whole body thoroughly, which should include the head and hair. In my understanding (from simple reason and common sense), when I'm supposed to take a BATH to fulfill the commandment I should wash sufficiently well all the parts of my body so that I FEEL it was a bath, not just ablution or wetting the body.


I find it so ridiculous about sunni imams telling people how to bath and what steps to follow, and that if a hair-length place remains dry the bath is 'rejected'.... !!!

Very good post indeed. You should FEEL it was a bath. For you it means washing the hair, for a bold person the feeling is different  :peace:

IMO, I would never ever bathe my hair before prayer because I would look like a frozen porcupine before reaching the mosque. Have you ever gone outside in ten below celcius with wet hair?  :rotfl: Furthermore I would probably get sick doing it, so no thank you sir.

Joking aside, the feel of being "clean" is the goal.