Washing after sex

[warner]

Peace Emil

The "thahara" in 5:6 means purify/clean and "bathe" is a forced meaning by the translators.

Also the most distorted meaning for "janaba" can not mean "intercourse"

[dawngorgeous]

@Where Is The Truth,
With respect, I know what the minimum for prayer is (the four steps of ablution).  Given that this is a discussion board, I don't expect anyone to put anyone else down, especially when they are unsure.  This certainly leads to people not wanting to express their honest views and also to people not saying when they don't understand or when they are confused.  I come from a Christian background and I am learning all the time.  I take your point about the Sunni thing.  Unfortunately, I felt put down and I hope that was not your intention.  I am sure you could find a better way to make your point.  Are you trying to turn people away?  I didn't detect the peace in your response, but I guess if people like me remind you, perhaps you might want to practise it.
Peace,
Dawn.

[Emil]

Peace Emil

The "thahara" in 5:6 means purify/clean and "bathe" is a forced meaning by the translators.
Also the most distorted meaning for "janaba" can not mean "intercourse"

Ok, good to know. So in other words I was not that far off eventhough I am only using the Swedish Quran. In my Quran bathe doesnt exist, it says purify. Janaba is translated as "great ritual uncleanliness"

[KDC501]

@Where Is The Truth,
With respect, I know what the minimum for prayer is (the four steps of ablution).  Given that this is a discussion board, I don't expect anyone to put anyone else down, especially when they are unsure.  This certainly leads to people not wanting to express their honest views and also to people not saying when they don't understand or when they are confused.  I come from a Christian background and I am learning all the time.  I take your point about the Sunni thing.  Unfortunately, I felt put down and I hope that was not your intention.  I am sure you could find a better way to make your point.  Are you trying to turn people away?  I didn't detect the peace in your response, but I guess if people like me remind you, perhaps you might want to practise it.
Peace,
Dawn.

Some of the people on this forum can be a bit grumpy from time to time (lack of sleep perhaps, ), but don't mind them. Learning is progressive and can only be done properly if the candidate is sincere. It takes time, no one can be expected to learn the Way in a short space of time unless God wills it. I'm glad that you came from a Christian background since Christians(Students of the Book) as well as the Jews should be a more knowledgeable in what the Quran teaches than other religious sects among Islam(e.g. Sunnis , Shiites , Sufi's )

Peace,

Kevin

[Emil]

since Christians(Students of the Book) as well as the Jews should be a more knowledgeable in what the Quran teaches

Good point

[dawngorgeous]

Peace Kevin,
Thank you for that.  The other 'problem' I realise that I have is the problem of Arabic.  Just from this post I am realising that depending on the translation you have, you could be understanding differently.  I had no idea that bathing yourself could actually also mean doing wudu.  This is why I ask questions.  Of course, I understand that God will give clarity to the ones He wants to give it to.
Dawn.

[KDC501]

Peace Kevin,
Thank you for that.  The other 'problem' I realise that I have is the problem of Arabic.  Just from this post I am realising that depending on the translation you have, you could be understanding differently.  I had no idea that bathing yourself could actually also mean doing wudu.  This is why I ask questions.  Of course, I understand that God will give clarity to the ones He wants to give it to.
Dawn.

Try using these sites. I'm also very weak in Arabic but these sites helps greatly in my studies.

quranix.org  - Five Translations (Edip-Layth, The Monotheist Group, Muhammad Asad, Rashad Khalifa, Shabbir Ahmed ), Quran Transliteration, Arabic text and Commentary.

http://corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp - Quran Dictionary , Word by Word translation, Quranic grammer

Btw learning Arabic plays very little in understanding the Quran. There is no language barrier when it comes to understand (interpreting ) the Quran. The most important thing you have to remember is to be sincere. Sincerity (your good intentions) is the key to guidance and unlocking the 'true interpretations ' in the Quran. The Quran is a guarded book....

56:77 It is an honorable Quran.
56:78 In a protected record. ( a guarded book)
56:79 None can grasp it except those pure. (meaning sincere)
56:80 A revelation from the Lord of the worlds.

There are many people who are well versed in Arabic but know very little of what the Quran truly teaches. The 'true teachings' of the Way are only reserved for the righteous.

17:45 When you study the Quran, We place between you and those who do not acknowledge the Hereafter an invisible barrier.
17:46 We place shields over their hearts, that they should not understand it, and deafness in their ears. If you mention your Lord in the Quran alone, they run away turning their backs in aversion.

Yes knowing Arabic is important to get a better translation of the Quran but overall it plays very little importance when it comes to understanding the Quran. To understand a book and to read a book are two different things. Understanding what you are reading  is far more important than becoming eloquent in a language. God made the Way easy for the righteous, whether they be French, Dutch, Norwegians ,  or Italian. Language is not a barrier that prevents a person from understanding the Way; it is their intentions.

Peace,

Kevin

[Mazhar]

Bath is primarily needed for the skin. It helps remove all the dead cells, thousands and thousands, if one is taking bath after couple of days, and refreshes the skin.

[afridi220]

Very good post indeed. You should FEEL it was a bath. For you it means washing the hair, for a bold person the feeling is different 

IMO, I would never ever bathe my hair before prayer because I would look like a frozen porcupine before reaching the mosque. Have you ever gone outside in ten below celcius with wet hair?  Furthermore I would probably get sick doing it, so no thank you sir.

Joking aside, the feel of being "clean" is the goal.

No problem you can use dry water instead

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=scientists-create-dry-wat

[GODsubmitter]

How ridiculous the disbelievers are !