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Started by Tyler Durden, August 28, 2011, 12:51:21 AM

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Tyler Durden

Hi all, new to this forum, but have been stalking the threads for a while now.


I grew up, like many of us, in a Sunni family. Born in Pakistan, we arrived in England when I was just a toddler and had the experience of trying to mesh two, seemingly opposing, cultures together to try and find some sort of medium that we could live comfortably in.

Growing up, if you had asked me what Islam meant to me, I would have answered quickly and proudly: Islam is five namaz's (sp?) a day. And fasting during Ramadan.

That's all the faith was to me growing up. A series of practices and traditions, looped together to form a religion. Growing up though, through my teens and now about to turn twenty, I felt a niggle in the back of my brain.

This niggle was a need for spiritual release. Without going all hippy on you guys, I basically felt little/no connection with Allah through salah anymore. I would rush it as fast as I could, words tumbling out of my mouth in barely understandable mutters. Stand, hands on knees, prostrate. Stand. Rinse and repeat.

It was depressing. I became - forgive the melodrama - but somewhat self-loathing. After every rushed prayer, after every rehearsed du'a, that lasted a meagre seconds, I hated myself a little bit more every time.

At 19 I became increasingly interested in Sufi music and I grew jealous of their spirituality, their connection with the divine that I lacked. The poetry, the qawali. Just beautiful. I needed more.

Then I came upon this forum. I read through for hours, page after page, thread after thread until my eyes were bleary and I could not stand to read another page-long post. But everything clicked. Everything made sense. Literally everything. Prayer, fasting, charity, peace, love, war, marriage, divorce. It all came together. This was the religion of common sense, of peace, of love, of spirituality, of fear of God, of forward-thinking that I longed.

And here it was, locked away in the confines of this little forum, championed by a handful of people like yourselves.

But I became scared. I became a coward. For about a year, I held on to dogma and tradition like ivy. These things became my safety net. I was scared of letting them go. What if something terrible happened? What if I was wrong and this whole thing was a lie?

Well my friends, I'm still battling with that. I know it will be a long and difficult road, but it will be worth it in the end inshaAllah. But the main reason for writing this long and verbose thread (forgive me, I'm a literature student and it's 5am) is to say a big thank you.

You guys have quite honestly shaken me awake from a dream. These forums are all wonderfully open-minded and argued with multiple sources and Quranic verses that have all made my transition far easier than it would have been otherwise. So thanks. God bless us all inshaAllah.

Apologies again for the length and sorry if it's boring - I needed to get it out!

Cheers guys.
Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken.


Yeah I want to be Brad Pitt, so what?

Andya Primanda

Peace and welcome!

Oh, and that's an interesting choice of nickname ;)

I see that you don't just "jump in" but instead you hang on for a year.  I was like that too, because I know it's not going to be easy.  But I found it better that way, and now I'm comfortable with my beliefs and I hope you are, too.
29:20
Say: 'Travel through the earth and see how Allah initiate creation!'

realitykid

Quote from: Tyler Durden on August 28, 2011, 12:51:21 AM
Hi all, new to this forum, but have been stalking the threads for a while now.


I grew up, like many of us, in a Sunni family. Born in Pakistan, we arrived in England when I was just a toddler and had the experience of trying to mesh two, seemingly opposing, cultures together to try and find some sort of medium that we could live comfortably in.

Growing up, if you had asked me what Islam meant to me, I would have answered quickly and proudly: Islam is five namaz's (sp?) a day. And fasting during Ramadan.

That's all the faith was to me growing up. A series of practices and traditions, looped together to form a religion. Growing up though, through my teens and now about to turn twenty, I felt a niggle in the back of my brain.

This niggle was a need for spiritual release. Without going all hippy on you guys, I basically felt little/no connection with Allah through salah anymore. I would rush it as fast as I could, words tumbling out of my mouth in barely understandable mutters. Stand, hands on knees, prostrate. Stand. Rinse and repeat.

It was depressing. I became - forgive the melodrama - but somewhat self-loathing. After every rushed prayer, after every rehearsed du'a, that lasted a meagre seconds, I hated myself a little bit more every time.

At 19 I became increasingly interested in Sufi music and I grew jealous of their spirituality, their connection with the divine that I lacked. The poetry, the qawali. Just beautiful. I needed more.

Then I came upon this forum. I read through for hours, page after page, thread after thread until my eyes were bleary and I could not stand to read another page-long post. But everything clicked. Everything made sense. Literally everything. Prayer, fasting, charity, peace, love, war, marriage, divorce. It all came together. This was the religion of common sense, of peace, of love, of spirituality, of fear of God, of forward-thinking that I longed.

And here it was, locked away in the confines of this little forum, championed by a handful of people like yourselves.

But I became scared. I became a coward. For about a year, I held on to dogma and tradition like ivy. These things became my safety net. I was scared of letting them go. What if something terrible happened? What if I was wrong and this whole thing was a lie?

Well my friends, I'm still battling with that. I know it will be a long and difficult road, but it will be worth it in the end inshaAllah. But the main reason for writing this long and verbose thread (forgive me, I'm a literature student and it's 5am) is to say a big thank you.

You guys have quite honestly shaken me awake from a dream. These forums are all wonderfully open-minded and argued with multiple sources and Quranic verses that have all made my transition far easier than it would have been otherwise. So thanks. God bless us all inshaAllah.

Apologies again for the length and sorry if it's boring - I needed to get it out!

Cheers guys.

Welcome, Tyler Durden, to Free-Minds.org! Are you a Fight Club fan? Lol. I thought that it was a good movie. A little too "adult" in some areas though.

Anyway, I hope that you will find this forum helpful. I too am a new comer. However, I registered almost as soon as I found it. I had been trying to find a community of people who thought like me.

I also hope that God will use this forum to help bring you to the truth of Islam, whatever that may be. I pray that He will lead us all into the truth about Islam. And I believe He is reminding us about His power, glory, mercy, and forgiveness every day as He leads us into a life of peace in worshiping Him alone and taking to heart the message that He gave us through Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and all the prophets before him (peace be upon them all), and a away from a life of man made rules and ideologies.

Feel free to ask any questions and we will strive to answer them the best we can. But don't forget that it's God who does the guiding. We can only do so much.
2:40 O Children of Israel, remember My blessings that I had blessed
you with, and fulfill your pledge to Me that I may fulfill My
pledge to you, and reverence Me alone.

Wakas

When I first saw your post, I thought "what's the guy from Zerohedge doing here"  ;D


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Tyler Durden

Quote from: Andya Primanda on August 28, 2011, 02:54:44 AM
Peace and welcome!

I see that you don't just "jump in" but instead you hang on for a year.  I was like that too, because I know it's not going to be easy.  But I found it better that way, and now I'm comfortable with my beliefs and I hope you are, too.

Thanks Andya and that's good to hear. It looks like your right too, it's a difficult transition to be sure. All the best.


Quote from: realitykid on August 28, 2011, 02:58:26 AM
Welcome, Tyler Durden, to Free-Minds.org! Are you a Fight Club fan? Lol. I thought that it was a good movie. A little too "adult" in some areas though.

Anyway, I hope that you will find this forum helpful. I too am a new comer. However, I registered almost as soon as I found it. I had been trying to find a community of people who thought like me.

I also hope that God will use this forum to help bring you to the truth of Islam, whatever that may be. I pray that He will lead us all into the truth about Islam. And I believe He is reminding us about His power, glory, mercy, and forgiveness every day as He leads us into a life of peace in worshiping Him alone and taking to heart the message that He gave us through Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and all the prophets before him (peace be upon them all), and a away from a life of man made rules and ideologies.

Feel free to ask any questions and we will strive to answer them the best we can. But don't forget that it's God who does the guiding. We can only do so much.

Thanks RK, you're absolutely right.

I'm a fan of FC like you wouldn't believe. I honestly think that it's a masterpiece. Changed my life that film/book (well actually it didn't, I'm the same old consumer but I wish I wasn't!) Best regards to you.


Quote from: Wakas on August 28, 2011, 06:30:55 AM
When I first saw your post, I thought "what's the guy from Zerohedge doing here"  ;D


Welcome to the forum.


I just looked up Zerohedge. Sorry to disappoint you, that guy seems way cooler and cleverer than me   :D
Thank You!


Quote from: Eikonoklastes on August 28, 2011, 04:52:38 PM
Welcome to Free Minds. The first rule of Free Minds is: you must have a Free Mind. The second rule of Free Minds is: you MUST have a Free Mind! Third rule of Free Minds: the Administrator and Moderators have the final say on all interpretation and implementation of forum rules. Fourth rule: no ridiculing or making Quranic claims with no basis. Fifth rule: respect other users on the forum. Sixth rule: no inappropriate content. Seventh rule: no multiple usernames. And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Free Minds, then you have to accept our greeting of "peace be upon you".

;D

Absolutely fantastic haha.

"Man I see in Free Minds the strongest and smartest men who've ever lived..... you get the idea! Peace be upon you Eikonoclastes.

Cheers guys.
Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken.


Yeah I want to be Brad Pitt, so what?

God alone

Welcome brother Tyler.

May Allah make it easy for your journey, God Willing.

(I didn't even post my story of how I became a Submitter -to Allah alone- and what my family said to me, which is interesting)

Enjoy it.

Salam. :)

realitykid

Quote from: God alone on August 29, 2011, 06:55:30 PM
Welcome brother Tyler.

May Allah make it easy for your journey, God Willing.

(I didn't even post my story of how I became a Submitter -to Allah alone- and what my family said to me, which is interesting)

Enjoy it.

Salam. :)

I'm sorry, but I must ask you to tell me your story. I find these personal stories very fascinating. Have since I took an interest in other religions while I was still a Christian.

Please tell us! Or at least me. :)

Peace be unto you
2:40 O Children of Israel, remember My blessings that I had blessed
you with, and fulfill your pledge to Me that I may fulfill My
pledge to you, and reverence Me alone.

mmkhan

Salaam brother Tyler,

Welcome  :welcome: to the forum

May Allah fill your life with happiness and with strong eimaan.


May Allah guide us all to His true path  :pr
Mohammed M. Khan
6:162    قل إن صلاتي ونسكي ومحياي ومماتي لله رب العلمين
6:162    Say: My contact prayer, and my rites, and my life, and my death, are all to Allah, Lord of the worlds.

3:51

Assassino

Salam from a fellow Pakistani :)

Welcome to the forum and I hope that you enjoy your stay.

May peace be with you.

God alone

Quote from: realitykid on August 30, 2011, 02:07:25 AM
I'm sorry, but I must ask you to tell me your story. I find these personal stories very fascinating. Have since I took an interest in other religions while I was still a Christian.

Please tell us! Or at least me. :)

Peace be unto you

Salam,

I just posted my story as you've requested. Hope you enjoy it. =-D

Peace be upon you.