Which Ritual Salat is named "Salat al Wusta" as per 2:238 ?

[almarh0m]

Peace

We are all familiar ( those of us who are former sunnies or other sects) with all the different timed salat and each name given to a particular 'Ritual Salat' such as : Salat al Fajr, Salat al Dhohor, Salat al Ashar, Salat al Maghreb and Salat al Ishaa. However, when it comes to "Salat al Wusta", I have yet to find a muslim person who can pinpoint which of the various ritual salat is salat al wusta. This is inspite of insistence of some scholars that "The Salat Al Wusta" is the most important of all salat, usually by citing 2:238.

So why amongst all the various known salat, not one can be identified specifically as the salat al wusta? Even the debatable salat al jum'ah or Friday-Prayer has an established place within the general muslim communities, which are extracted from 62:9.
So why is it 62:9 can find a place amongst the muslims ritual prayers and 2:238 cannot be accommodated the same way ?

Any comment and explanation is appreciated, thank you .

Peace

almarh0m

[Wakas]

How come you never responded to the thread below or my personal message regarding it?
http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9602361.0

[almarh0m]

How come you never responded to the thread below or my personal message regarding it?
http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9602361.0

Peace

As far as I can see, this question has nothing to do with the topic, If you can add some useful contribution towards a better understanding regarding this, please do so.

Bro Wakas

Since I became an adult I always try to observe etiquette, especially in respect of "private communication", I sent you a private message and expect a reply in kind, unfortunately you chose to reply through the public forum. If you have problem with my view/interpretation or understanding, and you know better regarding the matter in question, please forward your valuable view or understanding so that we can all benefit from it .

Thank You

Almarh0m

[Wakas]

peace,

I replied via the public forum because it was a clarification of the comment I made on that thread. If you did not know what I meant by it then others might not know either, hence clarifying for others also.

Emphasis mine:

please forward your valuable view or understanding so that we can all benefit from it .

That's what I did.

Let me know if you reply on that thread, in case I miss it. If you have no answer to what I said, fair enough, each to their own.

[Anishy]

Establish prayer at the decline of the sun till the darkness of the night and the Quran at dawn. Indeed, the recitation of the Quran at dawn is ever witnessed. [Quran, 17:78]

The time of Wusta would be noon. Also described as "at the decline of the sun" and that does make noon/evening does it not? it would be around the Asr time (Asr means afternoon by the way). So as long as you do the middle prayer at the declining of the sun (from when the sun is going from the highest point of the sky and towards setting but before it's setting), you should be on time for the Wusta prayer.

Hope that made it more clear.

You can also read my article about the obligatory contact prayers:
http://godfearingmuslim.blogspot.com/2011/05/contact-prayers-salat-and-their-timings.html

Peace.

[mir.ilyas]

Guard your duties pertaining to the family life (221-237) and the central duty of re-
maining vigilant in obeying Divine commands. [?Salaat-il-wusta? is not ?Asr] (2:238)

Taken from the translation done by Dr. Shabir Ahmed
download it from www.ourbeacon.com

[kgwithnob]

...Any comment and explanation is appreciated, thank you .

Peace

almarh0m

2:238
حَـٰفِظُواْ عَلَى ٱلصَّلَوَٲتِ وَٱلصَّلَوٰةِ ٱلۡوُسۡطَىٰ وَقُومُواْ لِلَّهِ قَـٰنِتِين

Dear all,

Why are we dragging this subject for so long? Just see 2:238. ALLAAH SWT is commanding us to safeguard the SALAWAAT (it is a plural noun, it must be at least 3 salaats)+/and the SALAATULWUSTAA (the middle salaat).

With careful attention, in order for the SALAWAAT +/and SALAATULWUSTA to have a middle number, then the SALAWAAT must be at least 4. So, the SALAWAAT + the SALAATULWUSTA must be at least 5.

Now, and after the above reasoning one can argue on the timing of each salaat according to other verses of The Qur?aan. Also, and for more clarifications, see the link below.

http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9601815.msg269652#msg269652

Peace,
Khalil

[mmkhan]

Salaam all,

Any comment and explanation is appreciated, thank you .

Please take a look http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9601300.msg261111#msg261111

And this specially about AlSalaat AlWusta http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9601815.msg269776#msg269776

Hope this may help inshaAllah.


May Allah guide us all to His true path 
Mohammed M. Khan

[God Within]

Peace be upon you,

Wusta refers to the balance...salaat is that which balances you...it is the programming/conditioning of the mind/subconcious which is achcived at the state between awake and sleep(middle/balance)

[Eikonoklastes]

Peace,

I don't think anyone who believes in the "middle prayer" can really make a compelling argument, in my opinion. There are too many holes.

Why the redundancy? Why is it the most important prayer? Where in the Quran shows it's specific time? Is it in the middle during the day or at night? How does it make sense in context with 2:239? How has this mysterious "most important" prayer been ignored even by the plethora of traditionalist scholars? Why is it mentioned as "AL salat al wusta" instead of "salat al fajr/isha", which I'm led to believe in Arabic means a general something instead of a specific one (not sure how accurate this is)?

I'm not sure if it's because a few scholars published books outlining it as "middle" that so many hang onto it, or if they simply don't understand context, or what. I must admit it's quite disheartening, and even embarrassing that we cannot settle on something that should be so clear to us all. 

May Allah guide us all to the truth.