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Is the Koran all from Allah?
« on: January 06, 2011, 06:47:30 PM »
Is the Koran all from all Allah or is some of it from Gabriel, Mohammad, Jinn and so on? For instance is it claimed that every word in the Koran is directly what Allah told Gabriel to say to Mohammad verbatim?
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Re: Is the Koran all from Allah?
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2011, 07:12:58 PM »
yes. It is all from Allah
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Re: Is the Koran all from Allah?
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2011, 08:16:55 PM »
yes. It is all from Allah

Thanks. So you believe Allah told Gabriel who told Mohammad who recorded it all verbatim?
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Re: Is the Koran all from Allah?
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2011, 08:22:38 PM »
im not too sure of Gabriel being the only medium..but yes i do believe that its from God..word for word
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Re: Is the Koran all from Allah?
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2011, 10:07:42 PM »
Sometimes it says the spirit of truth descended it ,  sometimes the holy spirit, sometimes the mighty in power, sometimes angel gabriel , sometimes the angels  ,  i don't know if these are the same thing,  but the content is from god , because there is a lot of the unseen in the quran and there is no way mohamed could have getten these ideas just by guessing,  but the wording i don't know if they are gods words or mohamed put the quran into words. but still, inspiration, when you think, you do with your own language, therefore could be the words also are god's words.  I only know that the meanings are from god.

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Re: Is the Koran all from Allah?
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2011, 06:36:19 AM »
I think it is narrated by some kind of very high entity who carry themselves with eloquence and a suitable amount of grandeur but themselves are subservient to the almighty. It reads as if an envoy came across space from a foreign place to let us know.

For example, 37:165 switches POV fairly rapidly. I think the term "We" is merely a collective of entities, like the Borg collective of Star Trek :p

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Re: Is the Koran all from Allah?
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2011, 02:41:25 PM »
Peace,
You know I have been wondering that for a while too!  It seems to me it is narrated by a group who refer themselves as 'We'.  But then there are some parts where God speaks himself and it becomes 'I'.  I find the story about Khidhr especially interesting when he talks to Moses about what he had done.  Because he uses 'We' instead of himself.  I dunno I guess I am rambling here.  Some people say the 'I' denotes an intensive form when God is becoming personal. 
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Re: Is the Koran all from Allah?
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2011, 03:08:55 PM »
Does God Exist?
An answer using The Quran and probability: http://www.quran434.com/Does-God-Exist.pdf
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Re: Is the Koran all from Allah?
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2011, 04:30:04 PM »
Does God Exist?
An answer using The Quran and probability: http://www.quran434.com/Does-God-Exist.pdf
Be aware that the method you used is defeated easily by the anthropic principle.

Actually, the probability for God to exist is either 1 or 0 depending on the definition of God. With a correct definition of God, it is 1, this fact is inescapable ;)

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Re: Is the Koran all from Allah?
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2011, 05:02:38 PM »
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Be aware that the method you used is defeated easily by the anthropic principle.
Can you elaborate?
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