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Re: Petra is the Holy City of Islam
« Reply #60 on: February 18, 2019, 08:06:36 AM »
Did the reconstruction of the fake kaaba/mecca actually happened after Hussein got murdered? Is it possible that those responsible for his death are also responsible for this great deception?
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Re: Petra is the Holy City of Islam
« Reply #61 on: February 18, 2019, 02:06:48 PM »
Hussein: Grandson of the Prophet.
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Re: Petra is the Holy City of Islam
« Reply #62 on: March 14, 2019, 09:37:43 PM »
Peace....
Even when I was reading quran I knew long back that masjid Al Haram or Kaaba or whatever holiplaces mentioned QURAN is not current Day Macca....
Let me turn to topic.... Whether it is Petra or not but definitely not Macca the current one....
After all what is the importance for us the masjid Al haram.... Not at all in my belief... Quran addresses the people of the past and people it was revealed I mean the community of Mohamed be it Arabs or the people of the book and Quran address commonly to entire human and jinn regardless of when and where they are living.... Haj and masjid Haram  is totally irrelevant to me....
BTW the prophet Mohamed definitely lived in close proximity to isreal and where Lot lived and current Day Petra is much close to the truth.... After all it has only historical values... Nothing to do with our salvation.....
God guide us...

Peace Everyone...

We can take the below verse also to support that Israel is so close proximity to where Mohamed lived...
 
2:211 "Ask the Children of Israel how many a clear sign We gave them. Whoso changes God's blessing after it has come to him, God is terrible in retribution."

Where is Makka and Israel to ASK from the CHILDREN of ISRAEL... not at all ..... If PETRA then that is very reasonable if Israel was in fact not only the current day areas of Israel..which should be extended up to the borders of Petra and where Lut lived...
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Re: Petra is the Holy City of Islam
« Reply #63 on: October 09, 2019, 02:16:10 PM »
Here is something from another source. Flavius Josephus a roman-israelite historian wrote a lot about Petra in his chronics about the Roman conquest of Judea:

And when he had predisposed them both to do what he would have them, he took Hyrcanus by night, and ran away from the city, and, continuing his flight with great swiftness, he escaped to the place called Petra, which is the royal seat of the king of Arabia, where he put Hyrcanus into Aretas's hand; and by discoursing much with him, and gaining upon him with many presents, he prevailed with him to give him an army that might restore him to his kingdom.

- Flavius Josephus: The Wars of the Jews / Chapter 6 - 2nd passage
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Re: Petra is the Holy City of Islam
« Reply #64 on: October 09, 2019, 10:13:42 PM »
Peace all..

2:122 “O Children of Israel, remember My favor which I have bestowed upon you and that I preferred you over the worlds.”
Can anyone say that Quran doesn’t address the Children of Isreal… Does God ever address any community except Isreal… Adam is different.. Simply like “ O! children of Misr .. etc”.. I didn’t find, correct me if so…
Calling the entire human and specifically calling Isreal has a huge difference… it shows that this quran is directly addressing the Israelite… There is no point if they were not living close proximity mingling with the community of Mohamed.

26:197 “And has it not been a sign to them that it is recognized by the scholars of the Children of Israel?”
What this verse says….honestly,  God wouldn’t have said this unless the people of Muhamed and Children of Israel are close proximity and each other knew their each others language to a great extent..

What about this..
27:76 “ Indeed, this Qur'an relates to the Children of Israel most of that over which they disagree.”
Ponder my dear people… you can get a lot to support that makka has no relation with Muhamed…
61:6 And [mention] when Jesus, the son of Mary, said, "O children of Israel, indeed I am the messenger of Allah to you confirming what came before me of the Torah and bringing good tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name is Ahmad." But when he came to them with clear evidences, they said, "This is obvious magic."
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Re: Petra is the Holy City of Islam
« Reply #65 on: October 09, 2019, 11:02:11 PM »
Peace all..

2:122 “O Children of Israel, remember My favor which I have bestowed upon you and that I preferred you over the worlds.”
Can anyone say that Quran doesn’t address the Children of Isreal… Does God ever address any community except Isreal… Adam is different.. Simply like “ O! children of Misr .. etc”.. I didn’t find, correct me if so…
Calling the entire human and specifically calling Isreal has a huge difference… it shows that this quran is directly addressing the Israelite… There is no point if they were not living close proximity mingling with the community of Mohamed.

26:197 “And has it not been a sign to them that it is recognized by the scholars of the Children of Israel?”
What this verse says….honestly,  God wouldn’t have said this unless the people of Muhamed and Children of Israel are close proximity and each other knew their each others language to a great extent..

What about this..
27:76 “ Indeed, this Qur'an relates to the Children of Israel most of that over which they disagree.”
Ponder my dear people… you can get a lot to support that makka has no relation with Muhamed…
61:6 And [mention] when Jesus, the son of Mary, said, "O children of Israel, indeed I am the messenger of Allah to you confirming what came before me of the Torah and bringing good tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name is Ahmad." But when he came to them with clear evidences, they said, "This is obvious magic."
Give thoughts…

For me very interesting the verses which involves Israel to presume where actually Mohamed would have lived.... I suggest to everyone to take all israel verses and explore in your own way ...
God guide us...