Proof Holy Qur'an + "hadith" is Error!

[harris]

Salaam bros n sistas,

A picture speaks a thousand words. Therefore instead of indulging in never-ending arguments with those who disbelieve that the Holy Quraan alone can save us, I'd simply like the following pictures which showcase the state of affairs in our 'so-called' islamic world today, to speak for themselves.

I just have a single simple question though: If the present form of Islam practiced is the one true path that Allah almighty has prescribed, why is there so much violence, ignorance, poverty and hatred in the muslim world today?


Inshallah, may those who are able to think for themselves see the light.



There is good news for them in the life of this world and in the Hereafter. There is no changing the words of Allah. That is the great victory!
-Sura 10:64

Warning: images may be disturbing to some viewers.










http://www.theodoresworld.net/pcfreezone/ashura_day_two.jpg



http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/assets/library/081209nipeid--122882529717778700.jpg










http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/lo6uRwwnFH0/hqdefault.jpg

http://media.cleveland.com/nationworld_impact/photo/time-magazine-afghan-girl-nosejpg-353a12e38f89803a_large.jpg























http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_8t59jorH2DM/R0fHPEojnFI/AAAAAAAABNY/EOXmxfsUzpE/s400/Paul+Johnson+Beheading.jpg




http://angrywhitedude.com/wp-content/uploads2/2010/02/mmuslim-woman-beheaded.jpg



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~And the Messenger will say (on the Day of Judgment), "O my Lord, my people have rejected this Qur'an." -Sura 25:30~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


PEACE.


Moderator edit: added warning

[Yosemite]

put those gory image in spoilers or take them out

[Alen]

As salamu alaykum,
with all due Respect.

Brothers and sisters.
First we must do something about ourselves.
First I must correct myself. I'm really talking about me. Me, Alen.

First.
I must show the example.
I should and I must show an example of a muslim who follows The Qur'an, who obeys God according to The Qur'an and then, God willing, God knows BEST, people around me, all people, muslims and non-muslims, God willing, hopefully, will see, God willing, the difference between

A person who says s/he is a muslim and me.
I also say that I am a muslim.

But I hope that you will see what I'm saying here.
When people encounter me, they sometimes ask me if I am a muslim. I say that I am. They ask me why I don't have a beard or why do I shave. They ask me why I pray different, this, that, third, everything, they ask questions that might be even provocative or loaded with fear.
I tell them what I know according to The Qur'an. That is why I urge people at least on this forum to truly join us as soon and as fast as humanly possible at the next and all Quranic sessions, God willing, please.

Last year I was reading The Qur'an in the restaurant.
man approached and sat at my table and asked me, respectfully, how come I don't believe in The Bible but believe Qur'an and The Bible is older then The Qur'an.
I told him what I knew and know, Thank God. I said that The Qur'an confirms The Bible and when I follow Qur'an, I also follow The Bible. I started telling him the difference between the original Message of The Bible and that today's Bible isn't the real message, hence the seperation of the church and the state.
The guy was shocked. First and foremost when I told him that The Qur'an confirms The Bible. He looked like he never heard that. And he didn't. I would say all he hears is BBC.

See my point?
You and I brother Harris, should meet and several others and whoever can join us and we should make this community firm, firmer, send a message. Awhile back I was sugegsting an idea: to direct a movie. Brother, I'm still trying. I'm still at the beginning. But only because I'm alone here, fighting alone means winning slow. But don't worry. You and I follow The Qur'an and that is the most important. Thank God, Hvala Bogu, AlhamdilAllah. I'm glad I can be Grateful to God in three languages, Glory be to God, SubhanAllah, Slava Bogu.

If you got time, brother Harris, send me pm and we can meet to discuss a plan to make our community not only stronger but such that people will be able to tell the difference between muslims and people who only give lip service. Oh, I'm a muslim, oh, I'm a jewish, oh, I'm a christian, oh, I'm an actor, Well, I'm an actress, I got beautiful eyes, well, I'm a cleaner at the Warner Brothers, I got keys to the major studios.

Yeah, I can also be blonde, I can have a tatto, I can eat a duck and also, I can hack into someone's pc. These are just words. Actions speak louder then words.

No disrespect to anyone.
Peace and Blessings be upon you all.

[mmkhan]

Salaaman brother Harris,

There is good news for them in the life of this world and in the Hereafter. There is no changing the words of Allah. That is the great victory!
-Sura 10:64

Thanks for the awakening aayat.

I understood what you are trying to say, but brother, most of the images are very disturbing. Please either add a big warning message [so that people may leave before seeing those images] or remove some of the images.

May Allah help us all on each and every step we take.
Mohammed M. Khan

[Ayisha]

Salam bro harris,

Now I become your fan. 

Excellent message, horrific way to do it, point driven clear and direct.

Your entire post should be in poster form including the signature.

[Mushu]

I don't agree with the reasoning here.

When I was a sunni, I didn't cut off anyone's head.  Nor was I violent or aggressive to anyone in any way, and sunni Islam didn't teach me to be either.

If, Allah forbid, tomorrow we found out some lunatic Quran only people in some obscure part of the world started killing people, would you ask:

"If the Quran only form of Islam practiced is the one true path that Allah almighty has prescribed, why is there so much violence, ignorance, poverty and hatred in the Quran only world today?"

What is achieved with this type of rhetoric?  Nothing.

99% of the problems in the muslim world are to do with economics and politics.  Religion is used in these societies as a weapon of control and aggression.  It has almost nothing to do with "authentic" of "acceptable" practises of traditional Islam.  Where Islam is most violent and harmful is where there is mass illiteracy, low life expectancy and crippling economic conditions, usually as a result of colonialism or regional conflicts.

Showing posters of violence and associating it with Islam is what the media does, and is an insult to the millions of peaceful and concerned traditional Muslims around the world.

[mmkhan]

Salaam,

I don't agree with the reasoning here.

When I was a sunni, I didn't cut off anyone's head.  Nor was I violent or aggressive to anyone in any way, and sunni Islam didn't teach me to be either.

If, Allah forbid, tomorrow we found out some lunatic Quran only people in some obscure part of the world started killing people, would you ask:

"If the Quran only form of Islam practiced is the one true path that Allah almighty has prescribed, why is there so much violence, ignorance, poverty and hatred in the Quran only world today?"

What is achieved with this type of rhetoric?  Nothing.

99% of the problems in the muslim world are to do with economics and politics.  Religion is used in these societies as a weapon of control and aggression.  It has almost nothing to do with "authentic" of "acceptable" practises of traditional Islam.  Where Islam is most violent and harmful is where there is mass illiteracy, low life expectancy and crippling economic conditions, usually as a result of colonialism or regional conflicts.

Showing posters of violence and associating it with Islam is what the media does, and is an insult to the millions of peaceful and concerned traditional Muslims around the world.

I agree with Mushu.

It depends upon an individual. One could be a peacemaker or else in any of the religions in the world, not only in so called Muslims.

May Allah open our hearts to understand the Truth.
Mohammed M. Khan

[alienayt]

These 'Muslims' probably follow The Sunnah & Shariah Law which in my opinion isn't really Islam.

[Badr]

You are mixing everything with these images, pure propaganda swollower, you aint helping no one with that.

[Prince]

I don't agree with the reasoning here.

When I was a sunni, I didn't cut off anyone's head.  Nor was I violent or aggressive to anyone in any way, and sunni Islam didn't teach me to be either.

If, Allah forbid, tomorrow we found out some lunatic Quran only people in some obscure part of the world started killing people, would you ask:

"If the Quran only form of Islam practiced is the one true path that Allah almighty has prescribed, why is there so much violence, ignorance, poverty and hatred in the Quran only world today?"

What is achieved with this type of rhetoric?  Nothing.

99% of the problems in the muslim world are to do with economics and politics.  Religion is used in these societies as a weapon of control and aggression.  It has almost nothing to do with "authentic" of "acceptable" practises of traditional Islam.  Where Islam is most violent and harmful is where there is mass illiteracy, low life expectancy and crippling economic conditions, usually as a result of colonialism or regional conflicts.

Showing posters of violence and associating it with Islam is what the media does, and is an insult to the millions of peaceful and concerned traditional Muslims around the world.

Spot on brother. I don't agree with the reasoning here simply because being 'muslim' isn't a title you carry around but a descriptive term.

A picture does speak a thousand words but unfortunately a picture cannot tell you the truth but only what you want to see as the truth. Debates are a sensible form of discerning the truth from falsehood.

PEACE