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Started by abdullah_m, November 21, 2010, 08:08:44 AM

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Alen

Quote from: Leyna on December 08, 2010, 06:00:39 PM
No problem.  :-*

It amuses me though that after all my posts you think I believe in females being weak and having to be obedient to their husbands.  ;D
Salam,
Respectfully.

Nein, nein, nein.
It's just that I forgot some sarcasm, that's all.
I haven't written any new script, where I use some sarcasm, sometimes, so this happened.
This depression has been attacking me from two places now. Since my soulmate abandoned me, I've changed, I think, God Knows BEST.

Glory be to God.




:-*   :-*   :)
Peace.
39:53 Say: ?O My servants who transgressed against themselves, do not despair of God\'s mercy. For God forgives all sins. He is the Forgiver, the Merciful.?

mmkhan

Salaaman Alen,

Quote from: Alen on December 09, 2010, 01:25:01 PM
Salam,
Respectfully.

Nein, nein, nein.
It's just that I forgot some sarcasm, that's all.
I haven't written any new script, where I use some sarcasm, sometimes, so this happened.
This depression has been attacking me from two places now. Since my soulmate abandoned me, I've changed, I think, God Knows BEST.

Glory be to God.

:-*   :-*   :)
Peace.

Why depression??? You are believer brother, you have to believe in Allah strongly, there should not be any depression thing comes to you... Kill the depression  :voodoo: I know you can do that as you are  :muscle: and take help from Allah  :pr look at 2:45

And  :-* is not allowed here as this is a public forum... goto PM  :P

Mohammed M. Khan
6:162    قل إن صلاتي ونسكي ومحياي ومماتي لله رب العلمين
6:162    Say: My contact prayer, and my rites, and my life, and my death, are all to Allah, Lord of the worlds.

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Alen

Quote from: mmkhan on December 09, 2010, 03:34:21 PM
Salaaman Alen,

Why depression??? You are believer brother, you have to believe in Allah strongly, there should not be any depression thing comes to you... Kill the depression  :voodoo: I know you can do that as you are  :muscle: and take help from Allah  :pr look at 2:45

And  :-* is not allowed here as this is a public forum... goto PM  :P

Mohammed M. Khan

Hello.

Yes, you're right, for the past few weeks or maybe just days, I'v ebeen thinking a lot about this feeling or whatever it is and I've come to a conclusion that maybe I'm not depressed, maybe I just wanna hide from the reality. Reality is this: I should be happy - and I am - where I am. I have things that some people don't.

You're right.
I'm not depressed.
Thanks for the support, brother.
I live in UK now, I live in a country where I pray in the park the way I see it in The Qur'an and no one is allowed to bother me, let alone harm me. Glory be to God, SubhanAllah, Slava Bogu.

Thanks for the support, brother, God Bless you all.
Peace.
39:53 Say: ?O My servants who transgressed against themselves, do not despair of God\'s mercy. For God forgives all sins. He is the Forgiver, the Merciful.?

mmkhan

Salaaman Alen,

Quote from: Alen on December 12, 2010, 01:37:57 PM
Hello.

Yes, you're right, for the past few weeks or maybe just days, I'v ebeen thinking a lot about this feeling or whatever it is and I've come to a conclusion that maybe I'm not depressed, maybe I just wanna hide from the reality. Reality is this: I should be happy - and I am - where I am. I have things that some people don't.

You're right.
I'm not depressed.
Thanks for the support, brother.
I live in UK now, I live in a country where I pray in the park the way I see it in The Qur'an and no one is allowed to bother me, let alone harm me. Glory be to God, SubhanAllah, Slava Bogu.

Thanks for the support, brother, God Bless you all.
Peace.

@All: Sorry for  :offtopic:

@Alen: MashaAllah, thats great. I am happy for you. Allah may want to protect you and chosen the correct place for you brother. So, stick to what Allah gave you and be thankful to Him alone.

You are most welcome.

May Allah help us and guide us all towards the correct path.
Mohammed M. Khan
6:162    قل إن صلاتي ونسكي ومحياي ومماتي لله رب العلمين
6:162    Say: My contact prayer, and my rites, and my life, and my death, are all to Allah, Lord of the worlds.

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Rana

Quote from: Leyna on December 08, 2010, 06:00:39 PM
It amuses me though that after all my posts you think I believe in females being weak and having to be obedient to their husbands.  ;D

Don't tell me you think that women are strong and even that they might be able to make decisions without their husbands help? Surely not with their smaller stature and emotionality.  :confused:

Now on a serious note....

@ Harris

You said that "'they' don't accept 'us'" and that is a major stumbling block because by rejecting hadith we are viewed to have forsaken part of Islam and this of course is a really serious thing. I do think sometimes the negativity can work the other way, of course. Even just judging myself; I am just coming out of a really hard time where I was so frustrated with the people I know, the people around me because of their attachment to hadith. This was not the best me. But like I said, I'm coming out of that now hamdulillah, I'm moving forward. If you are a majority Muslim and have faith in hadith I don't think it's as easy to be accepting of those with different views because hadith and Muslim are so intertwined. What to do?  :(
The middle path is the way to wisdom.
Rumi

mmkhan

Salaam,

Quote from: Rana on December 12, 2010, 10:00:49 PM
Don't tell me you think that women are strong and even that they might be able to make decisions without their husbands help? Surely not with their smaller stature and emotionality.  :confused:
Surely you don't need to be  :confused: but you are correct  :yes   ;D


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You said that "'they' don't accept 'us'" and that is a major stumbling block because by rejecting hadith we are viewed to have forsaken part of Islam and this of course is a really serious thing. I do think sometimes the negativity can work the other way, of course. Even just judging myself; I am just coming out of a really hard time where I was so frustrated with the people I know, the people around me because of their attachment to hadith. This was not the best me. But like I said, I'm coming out of that now hamdulillah, I'm moving forward. If you are a majority Muslim and have faith in hadith I don't think it's as easy to be accepting of those with different views because hadith and Muslim are so intertwined. What to do?  :(

May Allah help you and make you strong.

You remind me of my friend who is in hospital now suffering from TB. He is still under his father as he don't earn anything. Now when he got sick and they took out X-Ray for him, then they came to know he is suffering from TB.

While going to admit in the hospital, his father said, "Still you have time, tell me that you will start following hadith and pray 5 times a day, then I will take care of you and hospital expenses, or else do whatever you like to, I am not gonna spend a single penny on you".

He is having some saved money, so replied to his father, "No, I cannot go against what Allah said".

And he is in hospital since a week now, they said, it may take 9 months to recover. This poor guy is alone and suffering difficulties  :'(

Please pray for him ask Allah to help him come out of his difficult time and make him strong to remain on Eimaan.  :pr

May Allah guide us all towards the truth.
Mohammed M. Khan
6:162    قل إن صلاتي ونسكي ومحياي ومماتي لله رب العلمين
6:162    Say: My contact prayer, and my rites, and my life, and my death, are all to Allah, Lord of the worlds.

3:51

harris

Quote from: mmkhan on December 13, 2010, 02:11:41 AM
You remind me of my friend who is in hospital now suffering from TB. He is still under his father as he don't earn anything. Now when he got sick and they took out X-Ray for him, then they came to know he is suffering from TB.

While going to admit in the hospital, his father said, "Still you have time, tell me that you will start following hadith and pray 5 times a day, then I will take care of you and hospital expenses, or else do whatever you like to, I am not gonna spend a single penny on you".

Salaam brother,
But the Holy Quraan does instruct us to pray 5 times a day. And regarding following hadiths, well your friend could convince his father that he is following the best of hadiths (Allah's hadith).

Also the situation you have mentioned is an extreme scenario, where this guy's life itself is in danger. In such cases, Allah gives us permission to do lip-service without meaning what you say.

[16:106] Those who disbelieve in GOD, after having acquired faith, and become fully content with disbelief, have incurred wrath from GOD. The only ones to be excused are those who are forced to profess disbelief, while their hearts are full of faith.

Allah's wisdom decrees that if someone holds a gun to your head and orders you to declare that you disbelieve in God, you may grant him his wish. What the heart harbors is what counts.

In the end, Allah knows best.
Peace.
Bad boys, whatcha gonna do,
When THEY come for you?

mmkhan

Salaaman brother Harris,

Quote from: harris on December 17, 2010, 04:57:09 AM
Salaam brother,
But the Holy Quraan does instruct us to pray 5 times a day.

:nope:

Please see http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9601300.0


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And regarding following hadiths, well your friend could convince his father that he is following the best of hadiths (Allah's hadith).
Oh, his father? No ways, he never listen to his son. He says "what every one is doing wrong? Are you going to teach me now?, etc..."


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Also the situation you have mentioned is an extreme scenario, where this guy's life itself is in danger. In such cases, Allah gives us permission to do lip-service without meaning what you say.

[16:106] Those who disbelieve in GOD, after having acquired faith, and become fully content with disbelief, have incurred wrath from GOD. The only ones to be excused are those who are forced to profess disbelief, while their hearts are full of faith.

Allah's wisdom decrees that if someone holds a gun to your head and orders you to declare that you disbelieve in God, you may grant him his wish. What the heart harbors is what counts.

In the end, Allah knows best.
Peace.

Thank you for quoting this aayat, I was trying to show him the same aayat, but I was searching it in Sura-Almaida and could not able to find it.

Alhamdulillah, he is back to home from hospital now and he is in better condition by Allah's grace. But the only problem he has now is severe stomach pain. When it was reported to the doctor, he said, this is the side-effect of medicines given.

And unfortunately he has take those medicines for 9 months. May Allah make it easy for him.

Mohammed M. Khan
6:162    قل إن صلاتي ونسكي ومحياي ومماتي لله رب العلمين
6:162    Say: My contact prayer, and my rites, and my life, and my death, are all to Allah, Lord of the worlds.

3:51