Proof Qur'an-alone is Error

[abdullah_m]

salam 3alaykum brothers and sisters.

There is no god, except Allah. I am a slave of God-Alone, but I can't say that I follow Qur'an alone now as I had before when I first joined this forum.

It was a very slow process for me to integrate sunnah into my deen, basically because it just turned me off. You know... being told you have to wash your ears three times and nostrils three times, wipe with this hand, eat with that hand, etc. etc. Stuff that has nothing to do with righteousness as defined by the Book of Allah.

However, I started to recognize that there are two components to Islam and indeed to every religion. There is a textual component and a non-textual component. The non-textual component could be further broken down into oral tradition and non-oral (i.e. behavioral/physical) tradition. Tradition is as important as the Book, because it carries the barakah and authority. The present day Jewish religion is an example of a Book with a broken tradition, and you all can see how that has fared.

Finally, I found an ayah to prove my case, and I invite others that know Arabic to comment.

"Have you not considered how the ones who argue about God's signs actually disregard them? (40.70) Those who reject the Book and anything We have sent along with our messengers shall know * when fetters as well as chains are placed around their necks. They will be hauled along * into scalding water; then they will be scorched in the Fire."

Clearly Allah (swt) is stating that more than just a Book was sent down to the messenger.

So I would ask any Qur'an-aloners out there, what could this other thing be? And why aren't you following it?

[abdalquran]

Ws,

About 40/70:

1. there's no word 'anything' there. It's literally they reject with the book and with what we sent with it our messengers.

2. 40/69 talks about people who reject the 'signs of Allah'. Therefore whatever is mentioned in 40/70 must be under the subset of 40/70.

3. So if we talk 'the book' to be a scripture, then whatever else signs must be the signs in the horizon and in themselves (41/53). The messengers showed these signs to the people but we rejected.

The quran simply does not accept another source of authority besides itself.

[nerspi]

God has sent more then just 1 book, there are signs in the horizon and within us too yes...
but based on the content of hadith and sunnah books i dont see it as one of things containing signs or any guidence

[Wakas]

Tradition is as important as the Book, because it carries the barakah and authority.

There is simply no Quranic evidence for this statement.

[SarahY]

Walaikum asalam.

the verse you brought forth, its context is about prophets and what they brought i.e. other scriptures "not hadith". the prophet did not bring hadiths as we know today. traditions are fine, refer to 49:11, 49:13. everyone is cultured however they chose to accept or deny. traditions are traditions. they're not law binding. they do not necessarily carry barakah or authority.

If you, for example read of pre-islamic practices you will notice a similarity between those and the ones muslims practice today. Why do you think that is?

you know, God sends us "ayahs" and Quran is one of them, refer to 26:8, 2:99. Signs are there within the world 41:37, 41:39, 42:29 etc

you don't need tradition to know God, to love God, to be connected with God.

where is the Quran Alone error? that people need to follow "something else" that has no backbone? how wise is that?

peace.

[Alen]

salam 3alaykum brothers and sisters.

Clearly Allah (swt) is stating that more than just a Book was sent down to the messenger.

So I would ask any Qur'an-aloners out there, what could this other thing be? And why aren't you following it?

Salaam.

More then one Book?
Which verse does that say?

Peace.

[Leyna]

There is simply no Quranic evidence for this statement.

Actually, I don't even understand this statement. How can tradition "carry baraka and authority"? 

[quantum1]

Dear readers, peace

I respectfully disagree with all the explanations put forth by the esteemed forum members to abdullah's point.

I will try to explain my understanding, and the god knows best.

THE BOOK in the quran can have different meanings depending on the context. It can be referring to the quran, or the master book containing record of everything, or the book containing a record of our deeds which is part of the master book.

What does "The Book" in 40:70 refer to?

Those who deny the Book (al-kitaab), and what We have sent Our messengers (plural) with. Therefore, they will come to know. (40:70)

The context is clearly the Last Day (40:71-77)

"The Book" in 40:70 cannot be the quran because of the contradiction it causes as per abdullah.

"what we have sent our messengers with" in the same sign cannot be the signs in the horizons and within ourselves because those signs were not sent with the messengers

"what we have sent our messengers with" cannot be only the quran because of the word "messengers" plural.

"what we have sent our messengers with" cannot be the hadeeth of the messengers because then we will need the authentic hadeeth of ALL messengers for our salvation not just of Muhammad.

Careful consideration of the quran reveals that "The Book" in 40:70 can only refer to THE BOOK in which our deeds are being recorded which is a part of the master record in which everything is recorded. This understanding is solidified by the context of 40:70 which is the Last Day.

Please ponder on the following signs:

Who is more wicked than he who invents lies about God, or denies His revelations? These will receive their recompense from The Book (al-kitaab); so that when Our messengers come to terminate their lives, they will say: Where are those whom you used to call on besides God? They said: They have abandoned us! And they bore witness upon themselves that they were rejecters. (7:37)

Context is the Last Day just like 40:70

And if We let the people taste a mercy after some harm had afflicted them, they take to scheming against Our revelations! Say: God is faster in scheming; Our messengers record (yaktaboon) what you scheme. (10:21)

They record where? In THE BOOK obviously

And The Book (al-kitaab) was displayed, so you see the criminals fearful of what is in it. And they say: Woe to us! What is with this record that it does not leave out anything small or large but has counted it. And they found what they had done present. And your Lord does not wrong anyone. (18:49)

Same context of The Last Day

No, We will record (sanuktab) what he says, and We will increase for him the retribution significantly. (19:79)

We will record where? In THE BOOK obviously

So whoever does good works and he is a believer, then his efforts will not be rejected and We will record it (kaatiboon) for him. (21:94)

We will record where? In THE BOOK obviously

This is Our record (kitaabana); it utters the truth about you. We have been recording everything you did. (45:29)

Similarly 69:19, 83:7, 83:18 refers to the same book.

This is THE BOOK that we cannot deny per 40:70.

As to "what we have sent our messengers with" in 40:70, it refers to all the books that were sent with the messengers (plural), including the quran. Unfortunately the only authentic remaining out of them now is the quran.

The mistakes in this post are all mine. Only the god knows the complete truth.

[CavemanDoctor]

If that's your standard for proof, I'd hate to see what your standard for indirect evidence is.

[Wakas]

peace quantum1, all,

Thanks for your analysis.

kitab can mean writ/decree/prescription