The Night of Decree is the 27th day of the 9th moon: Incontrovertible proof

[Ayisha]

Peace  Ayisha,

I hate to tell you that you don?t know the meaning of synch in this situation. I will leave it at that.

why bother replying if you cant explain why?

Your own statement proves that the solar calendar is not in synch with the seasons. If it is in perfect sync then you wouldn?t be adding anything to it! The fact that you are adding something tells me that it is out of sync without the additional thing.

Previously you said ?The lunar cycle, the solar cycle and the seasons are from Allah, not a phenomenon. They are prefectly in sync with each other. ?

Now you are saying ??.the Lunar cycle is out of sync with the solar one?. Can you understand these are contradictory statements? You should determine your limit and stay within it!

I would have to go on to embryo steps for you but then you still have a barrier so no point

[san]

Peace brother WayFinder,

We don't even need a coin, an egg or an orange . The god tells us exactly and very simply how to determine the full moon:

84:16. So I do swear by the redness of dusk.



84:17. And the night and what it enshrouds.

84:18. And the moon when it becomes symmetric/full.



After sunset when the sky is glowing red,
the night enshrouds the sky from the opposite direction
where the full symmetric moon appears.

Peace Ayman,

Just to make sure, from what you are proposing, i take it that you do equate والقمر إذا اتسق (wa 'l-qamara Id.aa 'ttasaqa/and the moon when it becomes full) with شهر (shahr), is this correct?



ed: minor typo

[guest]

No... we know nothing here... you are the only person who knows everything... guess what... I dont know what i am writing right now!

Hmmm... the arabs failed to do this.. by civilizations which predates the arabs by long periods were able to do this.... and moreover, they did it accurately... Such as the mayan calendar.. which remains accurate upto this date.. each eclipse and every moon phases are accurate..   http://www.scribd.com/doc/36215072/Maya-Astronomy

Finally, you spoke the truth: ?I dont know what i am writing right now!?

If you knew what you are writing then you would have known that the clear marker bull ?. you are advocating should require No technological aid to determine the so called clear marker. In other word, regular Joe Schmo should find the marker with their naked eyes. Therefore, when you brought the mayan crap you were contradicting yourself with your dearest clear marker concept.  Didn?t I tell you that you don?t know the implication of your own writing?

[WayFinder]

Finally, you spoke the truth: ?I dont know what i am writing right now!?

If you knew what you are writing then you would have known that the clear marker bull ?. you are advocating should require No technological aid to determine the so called clear marker. In other word, regular Joe Schmo should find the marker with their naked eyes. Therefore, when you brought the mayan crap you were contradicting yourself with your dearest clear marker concept. Didn?t I tell you that you don?t know the implication of your own writing?

How was it a contradiction?  Sorry... i did not know the mayan had telescopes and satellites in orbit... had i know, it would not have said that!!  I am looking forward to read your thesis on the Mayan civilization and their astronomical might for their time.  I do not know what I would be without you! 

[guest]

Peace Ayman

I witnessed the full moon which you are describing in London this year. However, did not really know the significance of what I was seeing until I read your notes. It even made me pull over to the side, get out of my car and watch it in amazment, the redness of the moon and also how big it appeared was breath taking. I just wished I had a camera to capture that moment and share it.

Peace

Peace

If you really want to earn credibility and earn respect for your theory from knowledgeable people then I suggest you do the following:

1.   Produce the picture of the moon that appears day before the full moon. Time stamp, background color, and other relevant data.
2.   Produce the picture of the full moon. Time stamp, background color, and other relevant data.
3.   Produce the picture of the moon that appears day after the full moon. Time stamp, background color, and other relevant data.
4.   Do the above three steps for previous moon cycle
5.   Do 1-3 steps for next moon cycle
6.   Post the data for open review

My prediction: you will not do it because you are not serious about it. Serious people would have already done it with their original publication to validate the theory. You guys are FAKE or don?t know what you are doing! Thus you will earn no respect from good knowledgeable people.

Even if you do the above experiment, you will not publish the data because it will not validate your faulty theory. The evidence will bite your behind real hard.

[ayman]

Peace brother Hope4,

I witnessed the full moon which you are describing in London this year. However, did not really know the significance of what I was seeing until I read your notes. It even made me pull over to the side, get out of my car and watch it in amazment, the redness of the moon and also how big it appeared was breath taking. I just wished I had a camera to capture that moment and share it.

It is an amazing feeling when one lives and experiences the signs in the great reading. It is that awareness that makes us achieve enlightment. I experienced for the first time 84:16-18 this year and became aware of their meaning as they were happening in front of my eyes. The god is great.

Peace,

Ayman

[ayman]

Just to make sure, from what you are proposing, i take it that you do equate والقمر إذا اتسق (wa 'l-qamara Id.aa 'ttasaqa/and the moon when it becomes full) with شهر (shahr), is this correct?

Yes.

[hope4]

Peace

If you really want to earn credibility and earn respect for your theory from knowledgeable people then I suggest you do the following:

My prediction: you will not do it because you are not serious about it. Serious people would have already done it with their original publication to validate the theory. You guys are FAKE or don?t know what you are doing! Thus you will earn no respect from good knowledgeable people.

Even if you do the above experiment, you will not publish the data because it will not validate your faulty theory. The evidence will bite your behind real hard.

Selam guest

I am not here to earn credibility or respect. I am not trying to sell anyone here anything which includes any theories. I am only pointing out that out of all the full moons you observe in a year there is a special one. Now try this test if you are truthful, observe all of them from now till october of next year and I will also, and we will talk again inshallah.

But remember guest if you are convinced with your timing method/intepretation of the Quran etc then may Allah bless you and may Allah guide us on the right path.

Peace

[san]

Yes.

Thanks.

[loxbox13]

I believe the night of destiny  " al quadar' is so important and better than a 1000 months because that's the night that the holy spirit started delivering the quran to mohamed, this sourah isn't stressing that night as a night only to be observed for something, because the night of destiny happened in the life of prophet mohamed, and it's stressing how important the quran is, allah says  "salamun hiya hatta matlaa alfadjr" what happened when the night of destiny came, the light of dawn had risen, that is the quran for the world,  if u guys believe that there's a special night that is mysterious and the spirit and the angels descend in it, than i believe that intead of been rationnel in learning and understanding the quran, u been superstitious,  the night of destiny happened on the first night of the start of revelation, peiod.
u might not like it what i'm saying, but there's no magic, no miracles, no oracles, there's normal life, when it's done, you're a dead man at the end, ciao