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Tafsir
« on: July 26, 2009, 05:09:12 PM »
As salaam aleykum

Can anyone please help me understand the meaning of 'tafsir'? I know it means something like interpretation / exegesis of the Qur'an but does it matter what the purpose or subject matter of the text is? For example in an enquiry of fiqh it is necessary to examine and interpet the relevant passages of the Qur'an - would such examination / interpretation be called 'tafsir' or does the term 'fiqh' assume and include interpretation / exegesis of the Qur'an?     

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Re: Tafsir
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2009, 10:28:40 PM »
Anyone who tries to further explain a book that calls itself fully explained is a retard for obvious reasons.

Came originally to ask just how much of the Quranic content has been tafsir'd by Bukhari & co. Anyone know? :muscle:
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Re: Tafsir
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2009, 12:09:17 AM »
Anyone who tries to further explain a book that calls itself fully explained is a retard for obvious reasons.


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Re: Tafsir
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2009, 01:45:23 AM »
Anyone who tries to further explain a book that calls itself fully explained is a retard for obvious reasons.
Came originally to ask just how much of the Quranic content has been tafsir'd by Bukhari & co. Anyone know? :muscle:

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I agree. People are forgetting that messenger/prophet Muhamamd CONFIRMED previous Scriptures and brought nothing new to the society, he agreed with messengers/prophets befopre him - Moses and Jesus and more importantly, he followed messenger/prophet Ibraheem/Abraham.

People also forget that it was messenger/prophet Ibraheem the one that received the Quranic practices that we know as prayer, fasting and charity and not messenger/prophet Muhamamd, which is why non muslims often accuse us of things like Muhammad started Islam and he invented his own way of prayers and so on.

Tafsir is totally unreliable becaus eit can't be verified and those people that wrote it can't be checked properly, they're dead from our point of view.

The Quran is the only and The Best Hadeeth to be followed and we're not suppose to follow any other hadith besides The Quran. Plenty of proofs in The Quran, which, by the way can be verified if it is from God or not.

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Re: Tafsir
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2010, 08:46:37 PM »
I just went to a tafsir site and couldn't help but laugh at the fact no tafsir is able to leave the word "hadith" in verse 45:6 untranslated (pronounced and written to be said in the Arabic tongue) so as to make it appear as "hadith/hadeeth" and not what they did translated it to and write it as, "discourse/speech/narration" etc. etc.

Of course any of the other verses which are almost exactly like 45:6, are tafsir'd in the same manner having to play and twist with the word "hadith/hadeeth" as much as possible so as not to get the sunni reader confused and asking the imam questions about the contradiction the Quran creates with man-established sunnism on the planet.
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Re: Tafsir
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2010, 08:17:27 AM »
Tafsir is interpretation. Fiqh may include Tafsir of Qur'an. Whatever we understand from quran is a tafsir.
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Re: Tafsir
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2010, 11:35:36 PM »
Tafsir is interpretation. Fiqh may include Tafsir of Qur'an. Whatever we understand from quran is a tafsir.
Which is subject to all sorts of misunderstandings and political agenda (like Al-Khidr's interpretation of jinn, which he believes are white people or just non-blacks), yet, Bukhari's/(insert random Jewish, Christian, or Pagan corrupter of Islam)'s interpretation have to be clinged too like they were God's words to begin with. This is why Islam sucks and has been for pretty much 14 centuries.
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Re: Tafsir
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2010, 01:55:40 AM »
Walaikum asalam Ju

Tafsir is basically explanation

Fiqh is Islamic jurisprudence which basically involves scholarly work of compiling laws from quran and hadith.

Tafsir and fiqh are different. 

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Anyone who tries to further explain a book that calls itself fully explained is a retard for obvious reasons.
Fully explained? Bro you calling us retards? We don?t understand everything there are things beyond our comprehension/knowledge so we help one another by putting an ear to another?s explanation.

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Which is subject to all sorts of misunderstandings and political agenda (like Al-Khidr's interpretation of jinn, which he believes are white people or just non-blacks), yet, Bukhari's/(insert random Jewish, Christian, or Pagan corrupter of Islam)'s interpretation have to be clinged too like they were God's words to begin with. This is why Islam sucks and has been for pretty much 14 centuries.

Everything is subject to misunderstandings and political agenda?s none of us are infallible. Islam doesn?t suck people suck.
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Re: Tafsir
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2010, 08:34:30 AM »
Anyone who tries to further explain a book that calls itself fully explained is a retard for obvious reasons.

Came originally to ask just how much of the Quranic content has been tafsir'd by Bukhari & co. Anyone know? :muscle:
:rotfl: aww man., This is so true and funny. All your posts are fun to read bro. lol

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Re: Tafsir
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2010, 09:15:43 PM »
@ Sarah...

I never said everything is clarified to us. My point basically was, since God is saying the book is a detailing of everything, we may as well zip it since if anything, God meant the only important thing when it comes to the religion of truth (not man-made doctrines), is the book i.e. the Quran. Quran is what does the detailing (God himself) not man (hadith of Muhammad which is fabricated so it's not even his...or...unless you want to believe he, in the authentic hadith, gouged people's eyes out).

Since people suck and it is people who established Islam and not God, Islam must suck since it's their invention. Now if Islam was the Quran alone and vice versa then it wouldn't suck. However we all know this is not true (that Islam is Quran-alone).

@ Munzir...

Man I said that waaay back when. Why are people quoting such old stuff? >:(
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