Quote from: progressive1993 on June 06, 2009, 10:07:52 AM
What's up with you?
1. I am not leaving the intellect behind.
Go see what Christians do - they eat pork. Now use your "intellect" and you will see that they are fine and healthy and then you would say "I guess pork is healthy and not toxic, so i'll eat it". Well, you see, you have to look at the text.
2. I am not obliged to answer your questions. I gave you some of my opinions. Whether you accept them or not is your choice. But don't tell me that I HAVE to answer your question or that what I said is wrong, etc.
Eat what you want. Look at the Quran. If you dont believe me, then thats not my problem. Go ahead and eat the brain, etc. but dont say that I didnt warn you!
Peace
Peace...
Now you made me very angry! LOL
1. I don't need to go and see the christians if they are fine or not... Evil is of 2 kinds, the apparent and clear one which everyone can see and the second is hidden... So maybe they seem healthy but they are not. Also, we just had the swine flu outbreak, so time to re-think some stuff.
2.You are never obliged to answer and I never implied it that way. You are a participant as well as me.
You do not get my point at all.. I am not all guns at you. A question is being asked and we are discussing on it, thats all...
ANYWAYS...
I got some clarification for you and everyone else, feel free to answer and discuss on it.
I think that LAHM (meat) as used in the Quran is not restricted to only the Flesh of the animal but it covers all the EATABLE stuff from the animal... That include bones, marrow, brain, tongue, fat etc....
Look at these verses.
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وَأَمْدَدْنَاهُم بِفَاكِهَةٍ وَلَحْمٍ مِّمَّا يَشْتَهُونَ
And We shall bestow on them fruit and meat in abundance - whatever they may desire.52:22
وَلَحْمِ طَيْرٍ مِّمَّا يَشْتَهُونَ
and with the flesh of any fowl that they may desire.56:21
وَهُوَ الَّذِي سَخَّرَ الْبَحْرَ لِتَأْكُلُواْ مِنْهُ لَحْمًا طَرِيًّا وَتَسْتَخْرِجُواْ مِنْهُ حِلْيَةً تَلْبَسُونَهَا وَتَرَى الْفُلْكَ مَوَاخِرَ فِيهِ وَلِتَبْتَغُواْ مِن فَضْلِهِ وَلَعَلَّكُمْ تَشْكُرُونَ
And He it is who has made the sea subservient [to His laws], so that you might eat fresh meat from it, and take from it gems which you may wear. And on that [very sea] one sees ships ploughing through the waves, so that you might [be able to] go forth in quest of some of His bounty, and thus have cause to be grateful [to Him] .16:14
In all these verses the word LAHM is used.
Let me talk on the first 2 verses, 52:22 and 56:21
The verses say that the any LAHM the people pf Paradise will desire, they will get it. The question is, do we only eat pure flesh, or we eat flesh with some bones and so on. Infact, lots of people even dislike and hate to eat pure flesh and prefer to eat 'entre-cote', ribs surrounded with meat... Some people like to eat the legs, especially the marrow inside the bones, some people like the brain and so on... So, if such people get into Paradise, will they get just pure flesh when they desire to eat some fat or bones along?
The second verse talks about the flesh of birds... can flesh of birds not contain bones? Even the skin is left with the flesh most of the time as it is so thin. Can you eat the chicken flesh only without the fat? impossible...
Now you can say that the stuff we will eat in Paradise will be different from the one we have here and we eat... However, there is a verse in Surah Baqarah which says that the food from Paradise will be similar to the ones we have and eat here. Look 2:25
Now the third verse talks about fishes from the sea.. LAHM TWARIYAN means fresh meat. Fresh meat here means the whole fish, with bones, fats and everything. Its not 100% meat... even tough, the word LAHM is used to refer to fish.
To end up.
I will say that LAHM does not means only the flesh from the animal but all the other eatable parts.
May Allah guide us
Peace
