Almost Summertime! Lower your gazes!

[progod]

Back to your topic
Isn't it funny that only Muslims are working hard on this "lower your gaze", just like a child in a chocolate factory asked not to touch the chocolate? Other nations are like workers in that factory: the know they should not touch what does not belong to them. Difference between childish and mature behaviour

It was this comment that shocked me. I wasn't looking for videos from non-Muslims about lowering their gaze. I don't think non-Muslims are bound by Quranic injunctions, so they can follow whatever they want to, unless we just happen to have common ground on some issue. I happen to think that they were good vidoes. Anyway, that's all I'm really gonna say on the issue. I don't think it's worth a long drawn out discussion. Peace.

Godbless,
Anwar

[jankren]

Attraction is almost entirely originates from the brain. Even if women started walking around naked a man wont feel anything if he didnt program his mind to find a naked body of a woman attractive. The same thing goes for the opposite sex. Back in the days in some places women didnt wear any top and it wasnt considered inappropriate because the breasts in those societies we seen as sources of life not sexual objects.

So just remember its all in the mind brothers. Its all about mindset. No need to lower your gaze. Ha ha ha!

[TheNabi]

Peace

Definately all in the mind set. I've seen my mom and grandmother naked. No way in Hell I was getting horny off of that. Aside from close family members I actually think all the clothes and dressing up makes a person look more sexy than if they're naked.

Joe

[nimnimak_11]

I would dare to say that the issue is not about finding someone of the opposite sex beautiful but more about over sexing them or haveing sexiness overwhelm beauty. Beauty and sexiness are not the same. Despite that I don't think it's appropriate to stare at a covered women either. Staring is intrusive.

I pretty much agree with you.

I think that there is a difference in beauty and sexiness as you put it. To me, staring at a girl's face can be likened to staring at a beautiful sunset. I can't comprehend the same for staring at the girls breasts. I try not to look at other people (both men and women) on the street as i think that that's intrusive.

In cases where others try and attract your attention in a sexual way (bending over deliberately) i think you shouldn't look as i just get the feeling that it's wrong even if they want you to look (that's just my mindset though). I think this way it's purer. I had this in my mind before i approached the Quran. Once i acknowledged the Quran, i realise in chapter 24 it does say:

[24:30]Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty: that will make for greater purity for them: And Allah is well acquainted with all that they do.

The verse is open to interpretation though.

[nimnimak_11]

Peace,
Respectfully.

Even though i try my best to lower my gaze, sunni women who cover their hair, wear hijab and even burkhas, use lots of make up and look really attractive, i mean, they attract my attention.

Aren't they aware of this?

Glory be to our God,
Glory be to our God.
Peace.

The way i see it is that either they want to look good to seek the attention of others (more then one person) or they want to look good cuz it boosts their confidence and makes them happy and that they are just spending of God's provisions. Overall I think that women and men who spend time on trying to look good, are doing a good thing.

If you don't mind me asking, what do you think of them Alen?

[jankren]

By the way why just attacking men? I get stares from the ladies too sometimes and they dont even try to talk to me. Only continous glances and that creeps me out.

[nimnimak_11]

By the way why just attacking men? I get stares from the ladies too sometimes and they dont even try to talk to me. Only continous glances and that creeps me out.

I think it might get a bit annoying and might make things awkward depending on the person.
That's why i think that it can be intrusive.

[nimnimak_11]

Peace

No wonder people hate babies and kids.

Joe

Kids and babies don't have that same awareness as older people have. That's why i think that it's not instrusive for them.

[TheNabi]

Peace

They both have interests, but of a different sort, and babies do prefer to look at people they find more attractive.

That's why i think that it can be intrusive

I think people get too worked up sometimes. "Hey, why they hell are you breathing the same air as me, go across the street and breath the air", "Why are you looking at me anyway"? I don't have much of a problem with people looking at me, guys or women, they both do, what they are thinking is between them and God and whoever they are willing to reveal their secrets to.

Joe