Peace brother Wakas,
Quote from: Wakas on May 21, 2009, 03:46:57 AMFor sake of argument, let's just say according to grammarians rhamadan and mecca are diptote/triptote. Now, answer the question on Thamud. All it takes is one example to disprove your (and grammarians) theory. That is the point.
I doubt that he can answer. No one, including scholars and grammarians, has been able to answer for hundred of years and Q_student doesn?t seem to be particularly ready to let go of his ego and preconceptions and let the teacher of the great reading guide him to an answer.
Now with the god?s guidance and thanks to sister Samia, we finally have an answer. Sister Samia pointed to me that if you scan for Thamud you will actually see that it is diptote one time and triptote another. In fact, in the same verse (11:68) it is both but it should be a diptote according to Classical Arabic rules. Upon studying all the occurrences, this led me to an interesting observation, which is that the inconsistencies all occur in the accusative where an Alif is added to the text. On the other hand, the rule is applied uniformly in the other declinations. This would point to an artificial regularization by grammarians. They applied the rule uniformly in all declinations except the accusative because they could freely add vocalization marks but they couldn't delete the letter Alif from the great reading. This raises some interesting points:
1. This observation is a ?smoking gun? showing that Classical Arabic grammarians artificially regularized the vocalization marks of the great reading to conform to Classical Arabic rules and that the language of the great reading is actually different to Classical Arabic.
2. Since they couldn?t change the consonantal text, this artificial regularization would also further confirm that the consonantal text of the great reading is fully preserved since the vocalizers couldn?t delete or add even a single letter (Alif) to make the text match their artificial grammar rules.
3. This would also burst the hope of 19ers that some day a magic formula in their Code 19 will correct the count of the Alif in the Alif initialed chapters to match their expectations of 19 divisible since clearly even the single letter Alif is fully preserved. So this dashes their false hopes.
I hope this helps.
Peace,
Ayman
