Free-Minds article on Palestine

[AK85]

I admit the assault on Palestinians by the Zionists is very bad. But IMHO its hypocrytical when looking at the human rights violations that occur in the Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iran, etc. Or maybe to some, that dont count.

No doubt, those violations are terrible. However when someone brings up Israeli violations it doesn't necessarily mean they don't believe in or deny or wish to obfuscate human rights abuses in those mentioned countries. I agree though, there are terrible human rights abuses in those countries. However that is a different subject about different countries, it is off topic to bring those up when discussing human rights abuses in Israel.

[Haroon]

good article. very interesting and thought provoking.

[Jafar]

Salaam,
The only population in the modern world with any significant probability of descent from ancient Palestinian Israelite, Ephraimite, Judahite, Judean, Samarian, Galilean or Idumean populations are the modern Palestinians:
http://eaazi.blogspot.com/2005/07/litmus-test-for-jewish-anti-zionists.html

Agreed!!
Have told this many times in many forum including this one..
Those so-called PALESTINIAN people are actually ARABISED JEWISH!

Salam / Peace

[foralgerian]

Peace.

If the reality of the Zionists occupation of Palestine which actually has been wiped off the world map is a land issue, then let me state that all the Land belongs to God, and that land possession is a deception.

If it is about what I think it is, Freedom of movement and equal rights, then the only solution is to wage a war against the aggressors.
As defined in the Quran, with the objective to restore what was stolen and uphold the law of equal rights for everyone without discrimination.
But this cannot be achieved by pleading and praying, but by fighting.. not the HAMAS way as they're mainly partners with the Zionist entity.

[Producer]

Peace,

worst case scenario;

the whole middle east nuked, feel free to live there.

base case scenario;

"Marshal Plan" for Middle East, Israeli Social Movement wins against the Fascist Government, Lots of Peace Treaties. Mass Economic Development.

I opt for best case scenario.

[Layth]

Salam,

You forget, sura 17, actual scenario: Israel - The Temple, is liberated by those who believe in God alone.

[Jafar]

Peace,

worst case scenario;

the whole middle east nuked, feel free to live there.

base case scenario;

"Marshal Plan" for Middle East, Israeli Social Movement wins against the Fascist Government, Lots of Peace Treaties. Mass Economic Development.

I opt for best case scenario.

The (realistic) scenario..

- Nationalism and Racism decays, people will abandon this ailing fallacious concept.
- Sectarianism decays, religion will not matter much to the people. The 'jerusalem temple' shall be 'secularized' opened for any people to visit.
- As result; Israelites shall abandoned Zionism and Palestinians shall abandon "Arab Nationalism" a new 'social identity' shall emerge which encompass both of them.
- New government/administration shall sprung up with area of jurisdiction encompassed (at least) today's Israel and Palestine
- Dictators, monarchies and kings shall lost their appeal among common people, partly due to declining revenue from oil as fossil fuel are getting replaced by better and cleaner energy, the dictators, monarchs and kings had no more 'money or resources' to buy people support, this shall spark revolution towards classless democratic government and non-tribal politics. (Already starting)
- A new 'association of nations/state' shall emerge, replacing the old and ailing "Arab League".
- This association shall further lower the boundary of nation border, improving people and goods movement within the area, spurring trade, businesses among the people. (Similar to what happened within Europe Union or South East Asian Nations)

Salam / Peace

[farida]

The (realistic) scenario

The weeds have overgrown the garden, the central banks and their casino voodoo fiat instruments have done more damage than any war could ever achieve.  Until things get worse, the medicine of weed control will not gain the political currency to regulate finance as a utility and set public rates.  Monopoly printing of markers ("consider lowering rates when there is scope. ") to cover the casino's risky cash positions is untenable, the creditors should take a haircut, what is this, global indentured servitude?  But such questions are unelected in central banking and their owned media dogs.  Rupert, get the bone, get it, woof woof, good boy, rupert.  Old dying men suck the life out of the world's economy for doing nothing, and the ponzi scam of their generation pays no return on infinite debt servitude.  Take a haircut, why is it worth diminishing all western economies for risk investors. (Peatstack comments )

Salaam

[Producer]

This verse is Realistic Scenario.

[2:268] Satan threatens you with poverty and orders you to immorality, while Allah promises you forgiveness from Him and bounty. And Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing.

Viable Solution, FDR's New Deal, Marshall Plan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan

[40:82] Have they not traveled through the land and observed how was the end of those before them? They were more numerous than themselves and greater in strength and in impression on the land, but they were not availed by what they used to earn.

Realistically without a good Economic plan I don't see a good outcome.

[AliX]

I really don't see an end to the occupation.  I'm not sure what can be done beyond the United States deciding that it will no longer defend Israel.  I think their is far too many conservative Christians who believe this will herald Jesus (pbuh) so they think they need to keep Israel protected.