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Started by Madhoshi04, February 17, 2009, 07:17:16 PM

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Ahmad Bilal

Peace Jango,

Quote from: Jango on February 21, 2009, 09:17:56 AM
Whats that number 19 business going on... GOD tells us to believe in the unseen. It looks like people are diverted towards numerology which will give temporary benefits. The sign shown by Satan is just number 19 and sign by GOD is beyond and incomparable. Even inifinte has the materialistic approach.
See already GOD is keeping Patiece on us and already we are living with HIS mercy. Be ashamed of saying Number 19 etc which is a shameful act and GOD definitely do not like this.

By saying 19 we are insulting GOD. By changing by name into 19 will I land up in heaven. What a shame !!!. GOD says man is betrayer and we are verily prooving that by saying 19...Man becoming like animals and worst than animals...

Even a lay man will understand GOD is gracious and not materialistic... So hereafter stop palying with numbers.. No belive in One GOD and nothing else...
Throw the numerology into dustbin

What are you talking about? You think we should believe simply on blind faith?! Be aware that God will indeed throw in hell many who think just like you, and there will be no escape for the wicked ones. Abraham was supposed to believe in the unseen, yet he told God to send him a sign of His presence and magnitude. Moses was supposed to believe in the unseen, yet he asked God if he could see Him physically. Do you not understand?! The "clear proofs" are sent to the believers, and the disbelievers are incapable of seeing and understanding these. However, the righteous ones take heed. This is one of the main messages presented in the Qur'aan; even God's strongest believers (i.e. Abraham, Moses, etc.) needed proofs and signs from God to confirm their belief. Are you greater than them?

http://www.submission.org/messenger/proof.html

Until you actually know what this "19" is, maybe you should stop speaking on it. Do some research, and perhaps God will guide you...

Peace,

Ahmad
"The true delight is in the finding out, rather than in the knowing." - Isaac Asimov

Jango

Ahamed,

You have made peace into pieces(definitely not mine). For me 19 is one God if at all to some extent pacify mundane numero's people using numerology as tool 19 = 1+9= 10 =1+0 =1 GOD...Still GOD wins against Nuemrology Dogs.At least Numerologist will be happy with this answer becuase we have to come down from highest level to lowest numerology level to satify them....

Atleast we feel solace to our conciousness that you are talking about Ibrahim and Moses that makes pieces into peace again. At one point you have nice nature whn you talk about prophets. We pray GOD to improve your conscience. So we dont drag great people into 19 business theory.
Atleast don't disturb their peace, they peacefully praying for our bad deeds scheduling between seven heavens..(Again dont bring numerology or using seven (7))

We pray lord now... Lord give us wisdom and save us from Titanic/Satanic 19..We belive in one GOD

Tell me one thing? Whom  you are following ?
GOD or Is it  19( its end of teen) ...

So stop this double digit numbers with double standard and we be humble and GOD start liking us.We already do many mistakes and why we add additional numbers to sins.

Do you explain and argue with GOD  with 19 number theory when you are question by Almighty when your turn comes?.
Be afraid of GOD and not with numbers...

Love
Jango O0

Madhoshi04

Quote from: sarah_bd_gemini on February 20, 2009, 01:37:52 AM
Salam Madhoshi

I wish you well on your path and your newly discovered knowledge of an alternative, and as most of here believe, a true spiritual path. As a fellow Bangladeshi, I must say it makes me very happy that there are others beside myself and my mother and sister, from our country, who have made the choice to see things differently.

Peace and God bless

Sarah

Salam Sarah,
Thank you for your comment. I'm so glad to hear that there are other bengali's that follow quran alone. It can be a lonely world sometimes. I'm always trying to practice what I learn in the quran and it's quite difficult when your surrounded by people who say otherwise just because they have a different source (hadith/sunnah). I been trying to get my family to see quran alone path but it isn't going very well. But this morning, I did get my husband to get up and pray ON TIME and I'm trying to get my family to see it's not okay to miss prayer and think you can make it up later. The only thing you can really do is pray for forgiveness if you do miss a prayer.


Necray

Ah finally another Bangladeshi. Welcome to Islam! I should as well welcome myself since I too am new to the true religion of God.

vivek

Peace Madhoshi04,

As you said, the path of 19 is NOT the right path but the path to everlasting hell fire.

Yours truly,

K.Vivekanandan

MUNZIR ALI


Prince

Welcome to the forum. Very nice topic you have posted.

I was introduced to monotheism through the 19 miracle in Al-Quran (I believe the last two verses of chapter 9 are part of Al-Quran).

I agree what Wakas says in terms of not concentrating on the 19 but the One God and studying the scripture which this forum is an excellent place to do so.

PEACE
A book is only as good as it?s reader. Once opened symbols present themselves for the reader to decipher. We learn and relearn new conceptual models to comprehend these symbols. A book is only a tool.