Debate- what constitutes a marriage?

[farida]

Two unbelievers can be faithful? Yet most atheists do not get into such agreements, they waft into fornication. The majority never get into marriage, and have many failed relationships.

Salaam
Common knowedge that a couple is living as spouses doesn't that amount to making everyone witnesses to their relationship?
Beside what is the difference when a believing couple decide not to have childern until they are either sure of their relationship or want to establish themselves first? Does their relationship amount to fornication too??

[srotu]

Sheesh, as if marriages are all that secure.

[Rev.John]

Sheesh, as if marriages are all that secure.

Sadly, these days they are not

[Elke]

why sadly : staying together unhappily ever after just because one could not get a divorce was / is not a good option either

[Rev.John]

why sadly : staying together unhappily ever after just because one could not get a divorce was / is not a good option either

It is sad that so many people make a mistake in their choice.

[YuhannaTheMad]

Two unbelievers can be faithful?

Two human beings can enter into a monogamous sexual relationship with each other and no one else till their days are over, without believing in the existence of a creator. Yes.

Yet most atheists do not get into such agreements, they waft into fornication.

So, for a relationship to qualify as a marriage and not just fornication, I have to give the girl some money and let a lot of people know before I stick it in her?

The majority never get into marriage, and have many failed relationships.

I'd rather a failed relationship based on fornication than a failed marriage where kids are involved. But I can have either-or with or without kids. Which makes things too complicated.

"Only a Sith thinks in absolutes." 

[farida]

It is sad that so many people make a mistake in their choice.

At least they make their own mistake and not parents making a mistake for them

[Rev.John]

At least they make their own mistake and not parents making a mistake for them

Yes I understand that.

[Jafar]

So, for a relationship to qualify as a marriage and not just fornication, I have to give the girl some money and let a lot of people know before I stick it in her?

Yes, so those people will know who is 'accountable' when the girl tummy start getting larger..

Salam / Peace

[Elke]

Yes I understand that.

i believe even our mistakes we make for a reason, then we'll have to work on it and try to make the best of it

sounds like reason of life to me