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Peace, aspie from India here!

Started by The Khan, November 07, 2008, 06:15:03 AM

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The Khan

Dear akhee,

I'm also trying to tell you something. You are summarising AS as a disease caused due to posession of Jinns & the devil when it's a neurobiological disorder which begins from childbirth. Would you call dyslexia as posession by the devil? Dyspraxia? How about Downs syndrome? How about multiple scelerosis? Please don't mix religion with science.

Please think about it.

As for my sexual orientation, I'm perfectly straight. I find it very hard to lie. I'm a terrible liar. Online, however, I've never tried to do so.

I would refer this book to you, please read it before jumping to conclusions: http://www.amazon.com/Genius-Genes-Asperger-Talents-Changed/dp/1931282447

These are videos of Temple Grandin, the most famous aspie alive today. Her gift is the ability to understand the function of an animal's brain, particularly cattle.

http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=46ycu3JFRrA

http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=f-iy7GNsmm0

http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=QDWH_Sfnoc0

http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=Epwa0zQ8jx8

http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=aidkSBsyDlA

Honestly akhee, nobody would like being told that they're posessed by the devil and jinns.

Peace.

AaRoN

hey the khan i don't recall seeing your reply to sarah's question about whether you were officially diagnosed with asperger's syndrome by a medical professional.
* the Divine suffices as observer - appreciation is the message of the Divine - and those who are with it are harsh on concealment and nurture between themselves *

sarah_bd_gemini

Salam The Khan

Thanks Aaron, that's the question I was asking to the Khan. Have you (the Khan) been officially diagnosed by a psychiatrist? I am asking because I have taken many such tests online in response to other people jokingly asking me if I am an aspie. My results varied from 'definitely aspie' to 'neurotypical, but with significant aspie characteristics.' The problem with these tests is that they can very easily confuse social awkwardness and mechanical interests with Asperger's.

A lot of people without the disorder self diagnose with Asperger's and this hurts the people who truly have the disorder.
Quote from: AaRoN on December 30, 2008, 04:22:32 AM
hey the khan i don't recall seeing your reply to sarah's question about whether you were officially diagnosed with asperger's syndrome by a medical professional.
(The Great Reading: Al-Qur'an 17:36) And never concern thyself with anything of which thou hast no knowledge,  verily, [thy] hearing and sight and heart - all of them - will be called to account for it [on Judgment Day]!

AaRoN

pfft everyone who takes those online tests ends up self diagnosing themselves... a load of hooey if you ask me
* the Divine suffices as observer - appreciation is the message of the Divine - and those who are with it are harsh on concealment and nurture between themselves *

sarah_bd_gemini

Quote from: AaRoN on January 04, 2009, 07:07:15 PM
pfft everyone who takes those online tests ends up self diagnosing themselves... a load of hooey if you ask me

I agree for the most part. However, not everyone who takes those online tests for Asperger's ends up self diagnosing themselves as Aspies
Those people who have mostly verbal interests and are well adjusted socially almost always test as being neurotypical. It's mostly those with some social awkwardness who get false positives for Asperger's.
(The Great Reading: Al-Qur'an 17:36) And never concern thyself with anything of which thou hast no knowledge,  verily, [thy] hearing and sight and heart - all of them - will be called to account for it [on Judgment Day]!

Real Truth

Why exactly are we arguing whether he has a certain disease or not. He might be faking it , he might have been falsely diagnosed, he might be right! What difference does it make to us?
1 Peter 3:15
And the Lord God sanctify in your hearts. And [be] ready always for defence to every one who is asking of you an account concerning the hope that [is] in you, with meekness and fear;

Surah 16:125 Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance.


It is an act of virtue to deceive and lie, when by such means the interest of the church might be promoted." -- Bishop Eusebius (260 - 339 CE) Early Catholic church father

sarah_bd_gemini

Quote from: Real Truth on January 05, 2009, 05:35:51 PM
Why exactly are we arguing whether he has a certain disease or not. He might be faking it , he might have been falsely diagnosed, he might be right! What difference does it make to us?

the problem is just what I said earlier, it hurts those people who truly have the disorder by giving other people a false idea of what Asperger's syndrome is really like, much the same way terrorists who claim to be muslim hurt moderate muslim people by giving non-Muslim people the false idea that 'all Muslims are terrorists.'

This false idea makes no difference to you since you don't have Asperger's much the same away that the misconception of Muslims as terrorists makes no difference to non-Muslims since they are not Muslim
(The Great Reading: Al-Qur'an 17:36) And never concern thyself with anything of which thou hast no knowledge,  verily, [thy] hearing and sight and heart - all of them - will be called to account for it [on Judgment Day]!

AaRoN

lol@ arguing... oh yeah it's freeminds forum, where everything is an argument, right?

anyways my point is that there are thousands of people, perhaps millions, i don't know... on the internet, claiming to have asperger's syndrome... and i would be willing to wager that of these with the claim very few actually have such a syndrome, if such a syndrome even exists... many of the examples i have seen have something alot deeper than a mild autism wrong with them and i see alot of people excuse behaviour using this syndrome as a basis... that's all, i wanted to see how much weight there was to the khan's claim
* the Divine suffices as observer - appreciation is the message of the Divine - and those who are with it are harsh on concealment and nurture between themselves *

sarah_bd_gemini

Quote from: AaRoN on January 05, 2009, 10:52:13 PM
lol@ arguing... oh yeah it's freeminds forum, where everything is an argument, right?

anyways my point is that there are thousands of people, perhaps millions, i don't know... on the internet, claiming to have asperger's syndrome... and i would be willing to wager that of these with the claim very few actually have such a syndrome, if such a syndrome even exists... many of the examples i have seen have something alot deeper than a mild autism wrong with them and i see alot of people excuse behaviour using this syndrome as a basis... that's all, i wanted to see how much weight there was to the khan's claim

for once, what you said is something I agree with, for the most part. I actually know a boy in my class who has Asperger's and believe me, it goes beyond socially awkward behaviour. He actually is officially diagnosed with Asperger's. Asperger's exists. Just a lot of people on the internet, like you said, don't have it.
(The Great Reading: Al-Qur'an 17:36) And never concern thyself with anything of which thou hast no knowledge,  verily, [thy] hearing and sight and heart - all of them - will be called to account for it [on Judgment Day]!

The Khan

Peace,

Yes, I have been diagnosed. I've mentioned it a couple or so times in this thread.

Anyway, this is my farewell post. I'm considering becoming a member of the Baha'i faith. :)

Btw, Mr Deen has added me on facebook. If anyone's interested, you may add me through him.

Peace.