Chemistry in the Quran: Elements & Temperature

[DoctorNO]

The fact that you related 'islamic nations' with Al-Quraan's teachings shows that you completely missed the point of the forum.

This is a problem that DoctorNo, along with many other members at the Faith Freedom forum have. I'm in a discussion now at Faith Freedom where people are confusing teachings of the Scripture with the practice of the Muslim nations, or Muslims themselves, who are not acting in accordance with the Scripture.  :twisted:

* First of all since i am not a muslim and we are talking about the quran, not your particular sect or whatever. Then please understand that for fairnes' sakes I cannot just ignore the overwhelming ancient majority in favor for for a new teeny weeny disorganized group of radical muslims like yourselves.

* Secondly according to muslims the Christians and Jews are far more severe in NOT acting according to the islamic Scripture. So how come those folks are generally living a more blessed life than the folks who claim to possess & follow the uncorrupted words of Allah? It just doesnt compute. The simplest explanation would be that they are following a far better system than the muslims. The theistic explanation would be that they are the ones in favor of God. And the muslim's prayers are falling on nothing but an invention of a 7th century visionary.

[mquran]

* First of all since i am not a muslim and we are talking about the quran, not your particular sect or whatever. Then please understand that for fairnes' sakes I cannot just ignore the overwhelming ancient majority in favor for for a new teeny weeny disorganized group of radical muslims like yourselves.

Dear Sir, 'for fairness sake', why don't you give us ONE example from the Sunni law which comes from Al-Quraan ?

Do you call yourself objective by judging the Quraan through what people WHO CLAIM to follow it do ?

* Secondly according to muslims the Christians and Jews are far more severe in NOT acting according to the islamic Scripture. So how come those folks are generally living a more blessed life than the folks who claim to possess & follow the uncorrupted words of Allah? It just doesnt compute. The simplest explanation would be that they are following a far better system than the muslims. The theistic explanation would be that they are the ones in favor of God. And the muslim's prayers are falling on nothing but an invention of a 7th century visionary.

Wow, more of your gargantuan objectivity here once again. So the people in the west are Christians and Jews, are they ? Funnily enough, Christianity has long since ceased to the pan-power structure of Europe yet you still deem them so.

The west has achieved ascendency on the earth because they have conquered the forces of nature to an extent. They have progressed in science and technology. Coincidentally, this is what Al-Quraan commands mankind to aspire to. Sadly, the 'muslims' think fulfilment of religious duties is participating in rituals.

If you want an objective analysis of Al-Quraan, analyse AL-QURAAN.

[DoctorNO]

So the people in the west are Christians and Jews, are they ?

The overwhelming majority, yes. If mostly by name rather by religious practice.

Funnily enough, Christianity has long since ceased to the pan-power structure of Europe yet you still deem them so.

It would be more accurate to say that Theocratic Christianity ceased to be the government structure of Europe. But still Europe is run by Christians.

[DoctorNO]

Also the quran is more intolerant of pagans and idolaters. So how come the japanese, koreans & chinese are being blessed more in their endeavors? compared to those states who strive to uphold the quran?

[DoctorNO]

Connect the pieces of the puzzle my friends.


* scientific errors of the quran
* internal contradictions of the quran
* lack of clarity of the quran
* admonition for violence by the quran
* unjust teachings of the quran
* misery of muslims who upholds the quran
* translation diffulties of the quran
* absense of undisputedly true muslims. this remains a theory.

Think about it my free minded friends.

The truth hurts but the truth sets people free.

[John_From_Ohio]

Peace, Doc,

I'm glad you've arrived at a conclusion that sets you free.  This site is all about free minds and tolerance.

I fundamentally disagree with you, but I will go to my grave defending your right to have such an opinion.

Peace to you,

John

[DoctorNO]

AWRIIIGHT! Freedom of speech is one of the best things to ever happen to humanity.

[Tony]

AWRIIIGHT! Freedom of speech is one of the best things to ever happen to humanity.

No. It's sex! :oops:

[DoctorNO]

The case still stands, the quran was wrong in implying that water can be as hot as molten brass.

[Wakas]

Out of curiousity, do you even know the Arabic words in question?

i.e. what are the Arabic words for "water" & "molten-brass" in the verse?