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U KNOW ANY JINN?

Started by Fahad, December 20, 2004, 04:49:21 AM

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idolfree1

Peace be upon you Beatnik,

QuoteWhat about the 'nations' of jinn?

That would be the nation INSIDE of you. Sometimes when you catch someone in TRANCE, and you ask themn a question, they have to shak ethier heads and say "Sorry, I didn't heard you, I was in my OWN LITTLE WORLD!"


QuoteThe jinn talking amongst themselves?

Your inner conversations, non verbal.


QuoteThere are many cases where they are seemingly protrayed as people, they have free will, I'm of the opinion Iblis was a jinn too

Iblis is indeed a jinn. Jinn only means hidden. There are good jinn(malaika) and bad jinn(shayteen). No one on this forum disagrees that Iblis is a jinn. What some disagree to is that Iblis WAS a malaika.

QuoteI'm finding it hard to see it from your point of view idolfree...

I can respect that answer, it takes time and serious study and reflection. One must seek ALL knowledge. The study of ALL "religions" helpd shed light on these subjects. We don't have something EXCLUSIVE, these teachings are all saying the same basic thing.

Quotealthough it is a nice way of thinking, but there are times when I just cant see it from reading various verses.

The Gdo will help you if you are patient and maintain the process of learning.

idolfree1

Peace be upon you Saladin,

With all due respect, I see nothing valid in the above discussion.

If you did not see it it is HEARSAY, just like hadith of buckari.

Jinn means "hidden", thats all. Why are you trying to make it  into some monster? Why is there a need to beleive in demons?

The faculties within you that govern your life are HIDDEN(jinn) , thats all. Very simple.

salikahDC

You say that Jinn means hidden and your addition of the word "thats all" signifies this as a definite definition.  You also say that these Hidden faculties govern our lives.  The Qur'an says very little about Jinn and I have never read anything to make me believe that Jinn are exclusively responsible for governing our lives.  Is there a particular ayat you can reference that aided you in your definite and  "very simple" conclusion?  I say this because, based on all the verses I have come across,  the entire concept of Jinn seems complicated...largely because of the vagueness of their description.


Quote from: "idolfree1"Peace be upon you Saladin,

With all due respect, I see nothing valid in the above discussion.

If you did not see it it is HEARSAY, just like hadith of buckari.

Jinn means "hidden", thats all. Why are you trying to make it  into some monster? Why is there a need to beleive in demons?

The faculties within you that govern your life are HIDDEN(jinn) , thats all. Very simple.

Latifah

QuoteJinn means "hidden", thats all.

If it means 'hidden', could they also be hidden in OUR bodies? Since our mind/head is our innerworld, could it also mean that it's THEIR world?

The reason why I'm asking those questions is because I had some conversations with a djinn named Robert. He told me that djinns live in our bodies and that they 'lead' us. There are good and bad djinns, the good ones lead us on the right path and the bad ones (he told me they're called satans) lead us on the 'evil' path.

What do you guys think? Could the djinn be telling the truth?

The first time 'Robert' came to me, he told me he was sent from God. He told me he was a good spirit, leading me on the right path. He even told me what I did wrong and what I had to change about myself (bad habits etc.). He even let me look into my subconsciousness. Teached me how to control my anger, have patience, talk polite and show respect/love. He was the djinn who was leading me to the right path and that's how I became interested in the Quran. And that's how I searched the internet looking for answers about Islam, because I was questioning a lot of stuff and actually didn't want to get involved with islam (I was to negative about islam).

He said it's your own spirit and the djinns in you who lead you to act right or behave bad. In the end it's your choice.

Your opinion please?

Danish

Peace Kyle,

Quote from: "idolfree1"Iblis is indeed a jinn. Jinn only means hidden. There are good jinn(malaika) and bad jinn(shayteen). No one on this forum disagrees that Iblis is a jinn. What some disagree to is that Iblis WAS a malaika.
Please clarify as to who or what is "Iblis" as per your understanding?

Ming-Lo

Quote from: "Tony"Here in my country I know some people who can talk to dwarves or elves.


lol :lol: ....or are you serious? :shock:
has anybody ever wondered if people like Buddha (or someone else), were actually like messengers of there time, but later on throught misunderstanding was turned into a thing of worship like how Jesus was?

Jaxal

SaLaM

My grandma used to tell me of a well from which noises came of women screaming  :scared
She Made Me See The World In A Grain Of Sand.
When The Only Choice You Have Left Is The Wrong One, It'S Not A Choice Anymore... It's Fate.

Elke

Hello kyle,

following zulf post and your question :

i saw some inexplainable light a short while ago on my terrasse - it pushed open my bay window and just vanished inside my appartment. I was absolutely petrified (even though there was nothing evil about it) but an african friend sitting next to me just said hello to it... he had seen it too and it didn't bother him - he's kind of used to it. Two days later my son of 8 also saw something... It has vanished since, alhamdullelah.

No discussion involved in this case, but another friend of mine sometimes has visitors she discusses with. She's a medium since she was a small girl.

There are things one cannot just explain logically even though a lot is BS is going on around such stories as well for sure!

Peace, elke
"Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery ; none but ourselves can free our minds"
(Bob Marley, Redemption Song)

jonny_k

Quote
There are things one cannot just explain logically even though a lot is BS is going on around such stories as well for sure!

Peace, elke

Khi- Salam. I wldnt say "which one cannot explain logically" but rather "which one cannot explain by normal natural laws or conditions which we are used to regularly" because everything can be explained logically, yes even ghosts. We can say tht it's an energy acting froma parallel universe for example. What we cannot do is explain it naturally for under "normal" situations we wouldnt expect such to occur though that doesnt mean it's impossible. Illgical would be is eg a tall short man appear infront of you because something/one ccannoit be tall and short the same time. GOD Bless!
[19:19] He said: I am only a messenger of thy Lord, that I may bestow on thee a faultless son.

Elke

salam khizar

Quote"which one cannot explain by normal natural laws or conditions which we are used to regularly"

agreed!
lk
"Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery ; none but ourselves can free our minds"
(Bob Marley, Redemption Song)