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U KNOW ANY JINN?

Started by Fahad, December 20, 2004, 04:49:21 AM

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Fahad

salam bros and siss.
a question .
Prophet Solomon had the Jinns under his commands. he could talk to them . so does any of u know anyone who has any contact with the jinns ? have u ever tried to make contact ? i m not trying to be funny . im serious . it is possible after all .

salam .fahad .
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beatnik

I'm still trying to figure out what Jinn are.  Spirits, 'foreigners', aliens, etc, etc.  It will need much pondering.  For me anyway.  :)
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TheNabi

Salaam,

It is simply an exemplar, that we must excercise the control of the emotions/jinn and use them for our benefit, thus controlled/useful jinn = malaika.

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mz357

Salaams all,
                  came across this ayat tells us about the physical nature of men and jins ,what does Nabi think.



7:179
Many are the Jinns and men we have made for Hell: They have hearts wherewith they understand not, eyes wherewith they see not, and ears wherewith they hear not. They are like cattle,- nay more misguided: for they are heedless (of warning).

Salaams.

Tony

Here in my country I know some people who can talk to dwarves or elves.

mz357

Salaams,
             don't live in a world of magic and wichcraft.



006.128
YUSUFALI: One day will He gather them all together, (and say): "O ye assembly of Jinns! Much (toll) did ye take of men." Their friends amongst men will say: "Our Lord! we made profit from each other: but (alas!) we reached our term - which thou didst appoint for us." He will say: "The Fire be your dwelling-place: you will dwell therein for ever, except as Allah willeth." for thy Lord is full of wisdom and knowledge.

006.130
YUSUFALI: "O ye assembly of Jinns and men! came there not unto you messengers from amongst you, setting forth unto you My signs, and warning you of the meeting of this Day of yours?" They will say: "We bear witness against ourselves." It was the life of this world that deceived them. So against themselves will they bear witness that they rejected Faith.

007.179
YUSUFALI: Many are the Jinns and men we have made for Hell: They have hearts wherewith they understand not, eyes wherewith they see not, and ears wherewith they hear not. They are like cattle,- nay more misguided: for they are heedless (of warning).


People who lived in prehistoric times ;People of different far flung countries living detatched from other civilised peoples subjected to no laws or rules of conduct .

The primary meaning of the word Ma?shar in the verses 6:128,130;55:33. also reinforces this interpretation .Ash?arahu? means he lived in close communion with him and was on intimate terms.Thus by calling Jinn and Nas (human beings) as a single community clears that here Jinn and Human beings are not two different kinds of beings.


According to The quranic Dictionery:

Jews of Nasibin:Stalearts whom Solomon had taken into custody and having subjected them and made them work as cunstructors of huge buildings and who were experts divers .
People who are peerless , having no match or equal.


Salaams all.

idolfree1

Peace be upon you,

QuoteJoe said:
It is simply an exemplar, that we must excercise the control of the emotions/jinn and use them for our benefit, thus controlled/useful jinn = malaika.

Agreed. Very simple. I am sure those who are just getting around to studying this will arrive at the same logical conclusion.

Mz357,

(7:179) And We had created to Hell many from the hidden ones (jinns), and the humans, for them (are) hearts they do not understand/learn with it, and for them (are) eyes they do not see with it, and for them (are) ears they do not hear with it, those are as the camels/livestock, but they are more misguided, those are the ignoring/neglecting

Looking at it from one verse only can sometimes give you the wrong understanding. For example, if you just look at a cerse that says "Obey the God and His messenger", you might draw the conclusion that there are two different messages to be followed. You might think that you are to follow the God, then you must seperately follow the messenger, not realizing that in terms of the message, it is the very same instruction. The God only seperates the PARTS FROM THE WHOLE(dismember) so we can learn each part, then we are to put the parts back together again (RE-MEMBER). "Jinn" normally comes before "Mankind" in this reading to illustrate the process of thought then action, from the inner to outer, unseen to seen.

Jinn are like seeds and mankind is the soil, what plants will you grow?

Zulf

Ok, if Jinns are not the traditional beings that sunnis et al say exist, then, are there other beings that are apart from the five kingdoms of living things?

My wife does not believe in traditional Islam. However, so is someimes able to see beings that are like the classical version of ghosts and spirits. Human-like, tiny, numan sized or quite big. They are not limited by things like our construction, like walls etc. They do not appear solid.

It is easy for most people to dismiss this as superstition or whatever... but seeing is seeing.

I guess God never gave us a list of what is part of the unseen, and what is not part of the unseen. I think that the greatest part of reality is hidden... and we human beings are very very limited inour perceptions.

Any thoughts on this??
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idolfree1

Peace be upon you Zulf,

I have no knowledge of this, so I can't speak on it. Can you elaborate on these beings? Is there conversation envolved? When does she see them? What does she believe thier purpose is.

beatnik

What about the 'nations' of jinn?  The jinn talking amongst themselves?  There are many cases where they are seemingly protrayed as people, they have free will, I'm of the opinion Iblis was a jinn too.  I'm finding it hard to see it from your point of view idolfree...although it is a nice way of thinking, but there are times when I just cant see it from reading various verses.
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