Islamic Awareness of the Netherlands

[Arnold Yasin]

Peace,

There is a lot more involved then just this, but do not worry, new plans are starting to emerge.

[Rumi]

Peace,

There is a lot more involved then just this, but do not worry, new plans are starting to emerge.

ehh?? care to explain brother?

[Quranalone19]

Peace

I'd liek to make contact with people in Netherlans which believe that Rashad Khalifa was a messenger .
Peace

[tanty]

Peace

I'd liek to make contact with people in Netherlans which believe that Rashad Khalifa was a messenger .
Peace

Muhammad was not the father of any man among you, but he is the messenger of God and the seal of the prophets. And God is fully aware of all things."
(Q33:40)

So, no more messenger after him because he is the seal of the prophets.

[Haneen]

Do you think messenger and prophet is same world?

[Real Truth]

Muhammad was not the father of any man among you, but he is the messenger of God and the seal of the prophets. And God is fully aware of all things."
(Q33:40)

So, no more messenger after him because he is the seal of the prophets.

Prophet and messenger are not the same thing.

Mary was a messenger but noone considers her a prophet from any religion

[Mutazilah]

Prophet and messenger are not the same thing.

Mary was a messenger but noone considers her a prophet from any religion

Back to the topic!!!!


What happened to this guys? I mean the website etc.

[Adam The Warner]

Or IBN (Islamitische Bewustwording Nederland) is the name of our organization.

We want to build a big organization here with enough supporters to bring about a society of muslims who will interact and try to influence the masses in the muslim world and bring them back to islam and influence certain political and social processes in the muslim world in favor of democracy and the rule of secular law. (eventually inspired by quran)

We are activists, but the organization is undergoing some restructuring.. but soon we will make our presence felt.

Our influence on the muslims here is profound but still subtile. Some sunni organizations know us, and fear us very much. One of them even issued a "fatwa" against us and called us "dangerous" and "very acceptable at first glance".

Some people who were connected to these sunni sects, saw the light and came to us, by which as a reaction, some sunni radicalist activists came to our forum to try to get them back. They didnt succeed.

Untill now, most muslims we meet are positive towards us. Mostly they consist out of students (mostly Turks, Kurds, Hindustani's and Arabs and Berbers of mostly Moroccan origine, both males and females), Dutch converts or ex-sunni radicals.

The Dutch non-muslims are positive towards us too, however, mostly because of their false hope we neutralize or whipe out islam. They dont seem to understand the goal of IBN.

We want to be and stay in touch with everyone, nationally or internationally, who have the same thoughts concerning islam.

Our goals are great. We want to secure a powerbase in the Netherlands in order to project our influence in the muslimworld. With God's help, in order to bring about positive changes, we want to secure a powerbase in the muslimworld too. We believe that massive changes can only occur with massive means.

So whoever wants to contact us, be free.

May the Peace be with you,

I want to support the Message.

[Adam The Warner]

Are you still operating in the Netherlands?

I would like to contribute in the work since i have a "sunni/salafi" background. I was a former student of Bouchta & Abdelghafour which have ties with the SA "scholars".

But i came to the conclusion that they are just another sect that follows other sources beside the complete and fully detailed Quran.

Please feel free to respond by the will of God. I am very technical, have experience in IT, webdevelopment, video-editing, photoshop etc.

May my Lord guide me.

Peace.

[Timotheus]

Do you think messenger and prophet is same world?

in the quran messenger is a rasool, which carries to idea of 'sent' whereas prophet is Nabi, which carries the idea of 'Informing'

so in my understanding, a messenger is someone sent by god, whereas a prophet is someone who informs us of some information from God, that he has revealed. thus Nabi is more specific to someone who passes on Gods revelation, or inspiration, whereas, in my understanding a rasool could be anyone, sent by god, or commisioned by god to preach the message, to spread the message etc

although, again its only my understanding, which may well be incorrect. i am not an expert in arabic, in fact i only have limited knowledge and understanding of it.

peace