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Abdun Nur

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Re: Almost all pagans are pantheists
« Reply #50 on: July 18, 2021, 03:23:07 AM »
I'm just saying the same thing as you have cognative dissonance and cannot accept it, so little point continuing this, enjoy you Ba'alist beliefs, although there to your detriment, little can save you from yourselves, Peace.

It's a wonder to see the Ba'alist system of perceptual control, but the Ba'alist are presently working to strip away their support base, it will be interesting to see how the surviving populations beliefs alter after the cull, will they embrace Ba'alism futher or reject it?

Time will tell.

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Re: Almost all pagans are pantheists
« Reply #51 on: July 18, 2021, 05:57:44 AM »
Abdun Nur.
So at least you realise there is a proper challenge for your stand too.
Like I said to you,why do you need evidence for GOD s existence if you really have evidence that GOD does not exist?

And if you had solid evidence that will be enough and you should not worry otherwise. Your evidence will do it for you .

Unless one does not trust their evidence or like all of us realises that GOD has deliberately left some things "open to interpretations"  for us humans like religion,way of life,submission and beliefs. His existence is also part of how we interpret the world around us.
Otherwise GOD and His angels would have been present among us and there is no need for choice and accountability.
GOD bless you.
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Re: Almost all pagans are pantheists
« Reply #52 on: July 19, 2021, 10:53:38 AM »
Almost all pagans are pantheists.

Pagans who worship idols or humans are aware that the things they worship are not gods. But in their perverted pantheistic philosophy, they see what they worship as a reflection, a manifestation, a part of God. Thus, they fall into the trap of the devil. They think they are monotheists, but they are actually polytheists.

The fact that the pharaoh sees himself as a Lord is also the result of this pantheist philosophy. He thought of himself as the reflection, that is, the manifestation of God. Like all pantheists, he worshiped himself and the universe.

The Holy Qur'an clearly explains these facts. At the moment, the only real holy book we have is the Qur'an. On the other hand, the elites hiding the books like the Torah and gave the Fake Torah and false Bibles to the people(hadith books).

And;

Christians(trinitarians) are "half panteists, and so pagans".

Christians "3 in 1"

Hindus "333 in 1"

Pantheists "all things in 1"

New Agers "we are in 1"

These are paganism.

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Re: Almost all pagans are pantheists
« Reply #53 on: July 20, 2021, 08:31:38 PM »
Salam all,

A good article from former atheist:
https://www.answeringislamicskeptics.com/the-atheists-burden-of-proof.html


[41:53] We will show them Our signs in the horizons, and within themselves, until it becomes clear to them that this is the truth.  Is it not enough that your Lord is witness over all things?

God has shown, is showing, and will continue to show His signs.


[2:164] Surely, in the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the differences between the night and the day, and the ships that sail in  the sea for the benefit of the people, and what God has sent down  of water from the sky so He brings the earth back to life after it had  died, and He sent forth from it every creature, and the dispatching  of the winds and the clouds that have been commissioned between  the earth and the sky are signs for a people who comprehend.

So for those how are able to see His signs, good news for you ...you are people who comprehend!


Wassalam

Peace...

Pagans do believe something... Pantheist do believe something.. We believers in the Creator also believe... All these mere beliefs... But why believers do reject all other beliefs and only accept in One God?  Is it beyond belief and a convinced state of mind...

We have not seen God,  we believe... Then why we reject others' belief in paganism etc...
There is a reason... Can any believer say that strong reason pls?

Look at the verse 2:164 brother Ade cool brought... SIGN FOR PEOPLE WHO COMPREHEND...  isn't it what makes the absolute difference... For example... CREATION OF EARTH AND HEAVENS are signs FOR WHO COMPREHEND...  now it may totally go absurd if we comprehend the creations in erroneous way...  If the creation of earth and heavens is sign then if I say it doesn't spin and it is not a sphere pear shape and not rotate sun... Then what comprehension...  So rejection and acceptance of God starts with understanding how the earth and heavens are created...

Just look at this question....

If earth and heavens are closed chamber and no one can ever escape,  can anyone possibly have the faith that this must be a work of someone who is beyond this world?  Or if this earth is tiny mote and a massive universe with no boundaries then would that make anyone believe in a creator or most possibly make him believe it evolved?  With utmost honesty if the whole universe is as what science say I would never believe in God... Coz that doesn't need a creator... By looking at that design we can perceive it doesn't need a creator coz it sounds more or less perfect for evolution....

Closed chamber can never be an evolution.... That's my take... That's a design perfectly programmed to restrict human and others to it and to live in it...

That makes sense to believe in God... Of course in One God... Otherwise all beliefs are paganism or pantheist or whatever.. Just making monotheist so special won't make any sense... Monothoist need be in perfect side..

That's why researching especially on the earth and heavens is so crucial for ultimate grip of belief in God...

Otherwise anyone can loose grip at any given time to become an atheist...