** q_l_l l **سَلاَمٌ عَلَيْكُمْ Salaamunn 3alaykumm, Peace to you Mazher,
#1Mazher Khan (Delusions) wrote:
esimsek100 wrote:1. Only Allah is authorative of the Quran. No one knows its true meaning except Allah. So for anyone to say that they know better shows nothing but pride. Remember walk humbly through the earth. Fine we have our disagreements so it's best to say, "To you, your way, to me, mine"
Although Allah is the Creator and Knower of the worlds, to say that no one knows the true meaning of the Quran except Allah, is untrue. HE wouldn't be revealing HIS message to humans via revelations otherwise. What's the purpose of the Quran? It is not meant for fools or every Tom Dick & Harry to understand and thus the verse 2:269 besides others.
One thing I know for sure, is that the Quran is not clear as crystal, in so many places, even for those scholars who have spent all their lives studying the Quran and all the sciences and resources that are engaged with it. They would still be unable to decide what was the meaning supposed from this or that word and why. And they know more than anybody else how hard it is to decide, mainly because their decision will be very likely taken as Allah?s Final Word, when in reality it is just theirs! That is why you would see them repeating ?And Allah Knows best? or "On the responsibility of this person or that.." or even "I don't know!" or "I am the ignorant..", etc. at the end of every study and explanation. I was so surprised to see that the books of Khumaini are full of self-belittling statements!
The different yet valid understandings of the Quran explain why there are so many sects, schools, etc...who have rested their cases on valid proofs in language sciences books, etc..
I think that what esimsek100 meant by his statement is that no one can decide with hundred % certainty that their views are the only correct ones. Or maybe what esimsek100 meant was that no one should have the right to decide that his understanding is the definite and final one, and then go further and make his decision as a rule that should be strictly followed by others, or else those who refuse to follow, will be subjecting themselves to endless attacks and isults, etc. the way the member dhulqarnain is doing.
Personally, I think that an individual can or should and usually would decide for him/herself at one point or another, but that should only be on one's own self and not be imposed on others, the way the Pharaoh, for example, did
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Suratu Gkhafirr#40, the ending of
Ayah #29 قَالَ فِرْعَوْنُ مَا أُرِيكُمْ إِلَّا مَا أَرَى وَمَا أَهْدِيكُمْ إِلَّا سَبِيلَ
الرَّشَادِThat is the way the Pharaoh was, and every other Tyrant.
Messengers and Prophets (PP&BBUT) were never Tyrants. They were just the opposite.
سَلاَمٌ هِيَ Salaamunn He-YaPeace It Is