To the translators of Qur'an

[bkanwar2]

Peace bkanwar2

I am not defending anything. I simply asked you to explain your understanding.

It does not make sense when you say" one who is not a deity for worship" Explain Who is he then?

He is Rabb,= sustainer, foster, maintainer and accomplisher.

Peace bkanwar2

Also you translate a name " one who is not a deity for worship" for Allah. You added " for worship" . It does not seem to be there?

Peace.

Word Allah, is not a name.  In fact it is not even a single word.  Please read the explanation in the link.  It is simple enough to follow.  If you have questions about any steps.  Would be happy to elaborate further.

Peace.

[good logic]

Peace bkanwar.

Translate the following 3 verses of the koran,using your way/understanding, so we can compare your translation .

3:99″ Say:? O followers of the scripture, why do you repel from the path of Allah those who wish to believe ( submit and be loyal to Allah ALONE) and you seek to distort the true path ( by inventing intercessors, other authority beside Allah, monopolise the religion, mix your own tradition ?) even though you are witnesses?? Allah is never unaware of anything you do.?



4:119″ Anyone who accepts anybody else as lord ,instead of Allah, has incurred a profound loss.?

4:163″ We have given you the same message ( submission and total loyalty to Allah ALONE) as We have given to Noah and all the prophets. It is the same message given to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, the Patriachs, Jesus, Job,  Aaron, Moses, David and Solomon( these are in no particular order.) and all messengers of Allah. These prophets/messengers to deliver good news as well as warnings; Thus the people will have no excuse when they face Allah, after all these messengers have come to them. Allah is Almighty, Wise.?

You can ignore the words in brackets.
Peace.

[mmkhan]

If you agree and believe upon this much.  Please give me your reasoning.  As to why do you insist upon and keep quoting from a translation and understanding which is more than thousand year old?  Not only keep quoting but keep believing as a gospel truth.  Furthermore, when this thousand year old translation is not based upon language, instead mostly upon hearsay.

I did not understand what you wrote. Can you please rephrase your message for me? IF you are saying I am using alQuraan translated thousand years ago, how do you know that ?

I use my own translation most of the time by my TheCreator's help and His blessings. If you don't understand what and why I wrote that, please let me know I will try to explain you in more detail inshaAllah.


May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His true path 
mmKhan

[bkanwar2]

Peace bkanwar.

Translate the following 3 verses of the koran,using your way/understanding, so we can compare your translation .

3:99″ Say:” O followers of the scripture, why do you repel from the path of Allah those who wish to believe ( submit and be loyal to Allah ALONE) and you seek to distort the true path ( by inventing intercessors, other authority beside Allah, monopolise the religion, mix your own tradition …) even though you are witnesses?” Allah is never unaware of anything you do.”



4:119″ Anyone who accepts anybody else as lord ,instead of Allah, has incurred a profound loss.”

4:163″ We have given you the same message ( submission and total loyalty to Allah ALONE) as We have given to Noah and all the prophets. It is the same message given to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, the Patriachs, Jesus, Job,  Aaron, Moses, David and Solomon( these are in no particular order.) and all messengers of Allah. These prophets/messengers to deliver good news as well as warnings; Thus the people will have no excuse when they face Allah, after all these messengers have come to them. Allah is Almighty, Wise.”

You can ignore the words in brackets.
Peace.

Peace good logic, please post the Quranic text and not the translation that you want me to translate.

I did not understand what you wrote. Can you please rephrase your message for me? IF you are saying I am using alQuraan translated thousand years ago, how do you know that ?

I use my own translation most of the time by my TheCreator's help and His blessings. If you don't understand what and why I wrote that, please let me know I will try to explain you in more detail inshaAllah.


May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His true path 
mmKhan

Please share your own understanding of only this one verse.

أَلَمْ تَرَ كَيْفَ فَعَلَ رَبُّكَ بِأَصْحَابِ الْفِيلِ

[mmkhan]

Please share your own understanding of only this one verse.

أَلَمْ تَرَ كَيْفَ فَعَلَ رَبُّكَ بِأَصْحَابِ الْفِيلِ

Oh I got an examination now! Anyways I will try to put forward my understanding inshaAllah. Ya Rabbi help me please. I don't know what you are trying to prove but here it is....

105:1 Have you not seen, how your Lord did to companions of the elephant?


May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His true path 
mmKhan

[good logic]

Peace bkanwar.

Which book do you have? It is the same text as you have The verses are{ 3:99, 4:119 and 4:163 ]

Of course I am asking you to translate the original text. not the translation I used.
Peace

[bkanwar2]

Oh I got an examination now! Anyways I will try to put forward my understanding inshaAllah. Ya Rabbi help me please. I don't know what you are trying to prove but here it is....

105:1 Have you not seen, how your Lord did to companions of the elephant?


May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His true path 
mmKhan

So how come this is your own understanding?  This is there for over thousand years.  Based upon historical accounts.  Otherwise there is no meanings of this verse. 

[mmkhan]

So how come this is your own understanding?  This is there for over thousand years.  Based upon historical accounts.  Otherwise there is no meanings of this verse.

Why you always rush to prove others wrong? I really don't understand what you wanted to conclude? I translated it as per my current understanding, it may change tomorrow, so whats the big deal?

My only intention is to make Allah happy with me, I don't care if you agree to it or not.

Here is on aayat for you and me.

10:41 وَ اِنۡ کَذَّبُوۡکَ فَقُلۡ لِّیۡ عَمَلِیۡ وَ لَکُمۡ عَمَلُکُمۡ ۚ اَنۡتُمۡ بَرِیۡٓـــُٔوۡنَ مِمَّاۤ اَعۡمَلُ وَ اَنَا بَرِیۡٓءٌ مِّمَّا تَعۡمَلُوۡنَ
10:41 And if they deny you, then say, "For me are my deeds, and for you are your deeds. You are free from what I do, and I am free from what you do."


May Allah guide us all to His true path 
mmKhan

[bkanwar2]

Peace good logic due lack of time, I am just doing one verse out of three.  Hopefully, this should sufice to what you are looking for.

قُلْ يَا أَهْلَ الْكِتَابِ لِمَ تَصُدُّونَ عَن سَبِيلِ اللّهِ مَنْ آمَنَ تَبْغُونَهَا عِوَجًا وَأَنتُمْ3:99

شُهَدَاءَ وَمَا اللّهُ بِغَافِلٍ عَمَّا تَعْمَلُونَ

Think and then express in your words, O you people the refusal and departure from learned and written collection of principles is a reason why you have been turned away from lasting profit of Allah (one not a deity for worship).  Who gives safety and security, you endeavor to make this collection crooked and distorted.  And you continue to be witnesses for this distortion, without realizing Allah (one who is not a deity for worship) is not unaware of what you are doing.

[mmkhan]

Peace good logic due lack of time, I am just doing one verse out of three.  Hopefully, this should sufice to what you are looking for.

قُلْ يَا أَهْلَ الْكِتَابِ لِمَ تَصُدُّونَ عَن سَبِيلِ اللّهِ مَنْ آمَنَ تَبْغُونَهَا عِوَجًا وَأَنتُمْ3:99

شُهَدَاءَ وَمَا اللّهُ بِغَافِلٍ عَمَّا تَعْمَلُونَ

Think and then express in your words, O you people the refusal and departure from learned and written collection of principles is a reason why you have been turned away from lasting profit of Allah (one not a deity for worship).  Who gives safety and security, you endeavor to make this collection crooked and distorted.  And you continue to be witnesses for this distortion, without realizing Allah (one who is not a deity for worship) is not unaware of what you are doing.

Where is the translation / your understanding of 3:99 ? I also wanted to see you translate of the verse above. After seeing your translation only I may able to understand who you wrote to me, so please translate at least 3:99

Thanks in advance,
mmKhan