Dear Wakas:
I am not sure why you banned me for 30 days but GW and gave me time to finish some other projects.
In topic I stated by name of sister Majidah ( Maria) iwas going to write same things here and now I write for you .
QuoteIs it your view that we need to believe in Quran in order to be saved (so to speak)?
Please have patience and allow me take advantage of this topic explain how I came to God Alone Quran Alone.
It was first year of my conversion when I had a surprised invitation from catholic school which is largest one in middle of villages and farms. The surprise was that they asked me to run as religious session for grade 11 about Islam. The person brought invitation was 17 years old catholic Claude that I knew him for last few months and helping me to bring woods for heating my place when I had bad back disk pain.
I asked him how school knows me and why they have chosen me. He said I have seen you studying Quran and talked about proof of book to me I recommended to our religion teacher and she agreed.
It was difficult situation as I was atheist and not interested in religions since
I was 12-14 years old. I was born in Shia family. My father name was Fathoallah and my mother was Zahra ( Prophet daughter Fatima another name)> I never saw my grand father (father) he was a clergy mechant with turban and aba and he was Hajji ( visited stone cube) Abdolrahim. I grew up in family that none of them practicing prayers ? etc.
My father was drinker and never gone to Masque unless for funeral as id in whole of my life. ( I am happy did so because now I found that God advise us do not go to idolized masques). I never found why my father son of a Hajji changed to an theist when he was not educated to know Darwinism. He had few years of old Maktab education hardly reading and writing but he knew Abjad by heart which I never learned until my conversion. I reneber he stopped drinking at age of 70+ and doing his 17 Rukat. Iwonder hiw he knew all those Arabic verses in his prayer. He knew Arabi as he was grown up in Najaf ( Iraq) in his childhood. He was very honest and helping others. My brother the oldest one in family ( 16 years older than me (86) was a religious one and as my sister says he was chanting Quran every morning before going to work. (couple years ago my sister sent me the family Quran which blonged to my brother with his name stamped on first page . This is first translated printed Quran. It is 65 years old and due to quality of paper and age is very delicate and not easy to use it. )
Learning religious session in school and high school was one of the most difficult subject for me and learn it just to pass the exam with minimum and then forgot .
My mentor was my brother when he left Quran at age of 25 and converted to Darwinist. I never prayed and did religious practices in my life. In 1978-79 when Khomeini and his follower replaced corrupted Monarchy regime of Shah as was planned by Jimmy Carter administration I was penalized to loose my position and dissolving department I was managing ( Training department ) for a government wood and paper industries ( 3000 employees) because they found that I am not praying and did not know direction of Quibleh. (One of the reasons I immigrated to Canada )
No with such background and being very new to Quran I was asked to run session in catholic school about Islam.
I had no problem for presenting and instruction in class as I had done many times in technical sessions based on instructional technique which I have had the course in 1972 in Canada. But the subject was very new for me . Then I got vision that God authored in Quran that support believers . I do my side and rest in control of almighty. I had one week time and now had time to prepare, transparencies for over head projectors, copies of hand out at the end of session? etc.
Day came ,Well dressed catholic teacher introduced me and sat in end of room in corner watching me.
Subject :
Proof of divinity of Quran in Hi-Tech era by aid of computer. 45 min and then 15 min question period.
Simple facts:
Everything was right. I could not hear any noise which is normal I schools . question period started and first question was by a male student :
Can you marry 4 wives?
Yes, in special situation when the numbers of women are higher than men and have to be supported. But they should be treated equal for everything which is not an easy task. This avoids married man to have a mistress, and other wrong sexual activities and relation too.
Is Jesus son of God. ?
No, God had no sexuality like human to make intercourse, Jesus was created by God in womb of Marry as he created Adam. My opinion for such creation is that God reminding Satan that earth is God?s domain and he can create a pure human with God?s soul. Jesus was a human like me and you but God gave him such power like other prophets and messengers for proofing his assignment which is right path toward God Alone.
No more question and then teacher said I have a question :
How about those millions in past and those millions at present do not know about code 19 and did not read Quran. God consider them guilty?
No.
God authored in Quran no matter what is your belief, as far as you believe in God, be righteous and believe in Judgments day you are saved.
Code 19 is just a tool demonstrating existence of superhuman protecting his messages for 1400 years. The human has reached to level of knowledge that with help of computer is traveling into space and same machine is defining which scripture has not been manipulated or if is done is rejecting it.
That was end and when I was walking in hallway Claude run after me and said I congratulate you, I have been in this school since grade one and it was amazing tosee a quite class like this one. I said praise be to God supporting believers.
Then next day Claude came to my place with a an expensive chocolate box wrapped in eastern gift paper and pictures of Pyramids which could hiding a message .
http://www.submission.org/quran/webqt.php?&indata=6+6
Let me repeat your question again and see if I have answered it:
QuoteIs it your view that we need to believe in Quran in order to be saved (so to speak)?
2:62 clearly says all God need is 3 things, believe in God, be righteous, and believe in Judgment day.
I had one of those 3 conditions my record shows I was righteous even I was atheist . then at 50-60
I changed to agnostic, at 60 a personal case initiated new round of search for existence of God and his real sign and messages. Then code 19 was a bridge to take me here.
I have posted site that shows how many gods are there in this era in ink and paper but which one is not manipulated and prove for their divinity ?
God with no communication is another god. Believe in God. Which one. God with no message. !
Then why you forum is full of Quran related topics? Why you use messages of God in Quran not other one?
Cont?
