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Started by amin, October 13, 2007, 07:47:31 AM

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amin

I realized this when I am 15,
I used to think why we need specific postures while praying?
some said Mohammed learnt this from GOD, some said its a kind of Yoga, I thought it may be for the unity ?

I asked why women wear a Purqua hiding even their eyes? they said its safe for her. I know its unhealthy.


I asked why wear a cap while praying, some said Mohammed does that so should we. i don't know whats the need. but i thought its always good to dress well in public.

I asked why Haj or Pilgrimage to Mecca? some said its GOD's wish, will bring you happiness and pleasure while you travel, within me i thought it may be some kind of Saudi Tourism propaganda.

My uncle said, We should do things how  Mohammed did thousand year ago,
I asked then why so many contradictions in Hadiths and why so many sects of Islam, which is true? which one should i follow, He said dont question Mohammed, No one answered me properly, I thought because its man made it will have errors.


I dont follow many of the rituals to please GOD,

I am  a believer in GOD and GOD Alone, My Dear Allah. He brings within me peace, happiness. I now pray only occasionally in the mosque, but GOD is always in my mind 24 X7. HE alone gives me the right guidance.



Regards,
Amn.


Elke

Welcome Amine

the saudi tourism propaganda is a good one  :) :)

keep asking why !

paece lk

"Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery ; none but ourselves can free our minds"
(Bob Marley, Redemption Song)

Wakas

peace Amin,

Welcome to the forum.

Quote from: Aminwhy so many sects of Islam, which is true? which one should i follow,

I asked myself this also. It amazed me how simple and obvious this question was, yet no-one I knew had asked themselves this or tried to find out the answer. As, Al Quran says, each sect rejoices in what it has... which rings true, that is one reason why they do not attempt to answer such a question.

It led me to writing the following article, which you may find helpful:
http://mypercept.co.uk/articles/Intelligent_Approach_to_Islam.htm
All information in my posts is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should seek knowledge and verify: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11. [url="http://mypercept.co.uk/articles/"]My articles[/url]

[url="//www.studyquran.org"]www.studyQuran.org[/url]

Allen

Quote from: amin on October 13, 2007, 07:47:31 AM
I realized this when I am 15,
I used to think why we need specific postures while praying?
some said Mohammed learnt this from GOD, some said its a kind of Yoga, I thought it may be for the unity ?

I asked why women wear a Purqua hiding even their eyes? they said its safe for her. I know its unhealthy.


I asked why wear a cap while praying, some said Mohammed does that so should we. i don't know whats the need. but i thought its always good to dress well in public.

I asked why Haj or Pilgrimage to Mecca? some said its GOD's wish, will bring you happiness and pleasure while you travel, within me i thought it may be some kind of Saudi Tourism propaganda.

My uncle said, We should do things how  Mohammed did thousand year ago,
I asked then why so many contradictions in Hadiths and why so many sects of Islam, which is true? which one should i follow, He said dont question Mohammed, No one answered me properly, I thought because its man made it will have errors.


I dont follow many of the rituals to please GOD,

I am  a believer in GOD and GOD Alone, My Dear Allah. He brings within me peace, happiness. I now pray only occasionally in the mosque, but GOD is always in my mind 24 X7. HE alone gives me the right guidance.



Regards,
Amn.


Yes you should ask why ???
Why some Quran aloners think Quran is preserved and other think NOT at all ???
Why Some Quran aloners think  ,2 prayers ,some think 3 prayers ,some think five prayers ?? WHy ?
Why some Quran aloners have RK as Rasool while others not Why ??
Why Some Quran aloners think Rasools can come now while others think not ?? why ???
Why each of quran aloner is prostating in a different direction in prayers ?? Why ??
Why a musical congregation is called Hajj in Quran aloners ?? Why??
Why mathematics is more important than Quran for Quran aloners??

Bigmo

Quote from: Allen on October 13, 2007, 09:39:20 AM
Yes you should ask why ???
Why some Quran aloners think Quran is preserved and other think NOT at all ???
Why Some Quran aloners think  ,2 prayers ,some think 3 prayers ,some think five prayers ?? WHy ?
Why some Quran aloners have RK as Rasool while others not Why ??
Why Some Quran aloners think Rasools can come now while others think not ?? why ???
Why each of quran aloner is prostating in a different direction in prayers ?? Why ??
Why a musical congregation is called Hajj in Quran aloners ?? Why??


Not all of them are alike; a party of the people of the Book stand for the right, they recite the Verses of God during the hours of the night, prostrating themselves in prayer. They believe in God and the Last Day; they enjoin good and forbid wrong; and they hasten in  good works; and they are among the righteous. And whatever good they do, nothing will be rejected of them; for God knows well those who are God fearing. 3:113-115

4.160. For the iniquity of the Jews We made unlawful for them certain (foods) good and wholesome which had been lawful for them;- in that they hindered many from God's Way;-
4.161. That they took usury, though they were forbidden; and that they devoured men's substance wrongfully;- we have prepared for those among them who reject faith a grievous punishment.

4.162. But those among them who are well-grounded in knowledge, and the believers, believe in what hath been revealed to thee and what was revealed before thee: And (especially) those who establish regular prayer and practise regular charity and believe in God and in the Last Day: To them shall We soon give a great reward.

Further confirmed here:

And they say: "None shall enter Paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian." Those are their (vain) desires. Say: "Produce your proof if ye are truthful."Nay,-whoever submits His whole self to God and is a doer of good,- He will get his reward with his Lord; on such shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. The Jews say: "The Christians have naught (to stand) upon; and the Christians say: "The Jews have naught (To stand) upon." Yet they study the (same) Book. Like unto their word is what those say who know not; but God will judge between them in their quarrel on the Day of Judgment. 2.111-113

To thee We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety: so judge between them by what God hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging from the Truth that hath come to thee. To each among you have we prescribed a law and an open way. If God had so willed, He would have made you a single people, but (His plan is) to test you in what He hath given you: so strive as in a race in all virtues. The goal of you all is to God; it is He that will show you the truth of the matters in which ye dispute; Surah 5 Verse 48


22.40. (They are) those who have been expelled from their homes in defiance of right,- (for no cause) except that they say, "our Lord is God. Did not God check one set of people by means of another, there would surely have been pulled down monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques, in which the name of God is commemorated in abundant measure. God will certainly aid those who aid his (cause);- for verily God is full of Strength, Exalted in Might, (able to enforce His Will

There are many ways we worship God but only God we should worship.

88:21 22; And so, exhort them your task is only to exhort; you cannot compel them to believe

zenje

Peace Amin,

:welcome: to the forum.
If they turn away, then Say: "God is enough for me, there is no god but He, in Him I put my trust and He is the Lord of the great throne." [9:129]

ayani

Amin ~
welcome! i am glad that you ask... if more Muslims asked and reflected, and sought the roots of faith...  :sun:

you are a light to the ummah, Amin. welcome, and Allah guide you. 
Salam al-Masih

Elke

Quote from: Allen on October 13, 2007, 09:39:20 AM
Yes you should ask why ???
Why some Quran aloners think Quran is preserved and other think NOT at all ???
Why Some Quran aloners think  ,2 prayers ,some think 3 prayers ,some think five prayers ?? WHy ?
Why some Quran aloners have RK as Rasool while others not Why ??
Why Some Quran aloners think Rasools can come now while others think not ?? why ???
Why each of quran aloner is prostating in a different direction in prayers ?? Why ??
Why a musical congregation is called Hajj in Quran aloners ?? Why??
Why mathematics is more important than Quran for Quran aloners??


Peace allen

because we decided to reflect freely and not only follow what the elders/majority told us. I have no problem with people coming to different conclusions. I think your last question shows some confusion.

lk
"Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery ; none but ourselves can free our minds"
(Bob Marley, Redemption Song)

Allen

Quote from: Elke on October 13, 2007, 01:45:29 PM
Peace allen

because we decided to reflect freely and not only follow what the elders/majority told us. I have no problem with people coming to different conclusions. I think your last question shows some confusion.

lk

Quran says :

إِنَّا نَحْنُ نَزَّلْنَا الذِّكْرَ وَإِنَّا لَهُ لَحَافِظُونَ﴿15:9﴾
(15:9) As regards this Admonition, it is We Who have sent it down, and We Ourself will preserve it.

So it is preserved
RK standardized the Quran on Mathematics and said that Quran is not preserved i.e God word is wrong (m3aazallah) and extracted two verses;
It clearly shows two conclusions :
--Quran aloners think God's word is wrong
-- Mathematics is standard not God's word

Elke

Peace Allen

the confusion i spoke about is the one you have about "quran aloners". Only some of the people that believe in the existence of the code seem to give more importance to mathematics than the quran. Many "quran aloners" don't even believe in the existence of a code.

lk
"Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery ; none but ourselves can free our minds"
(Bob Marley, Redemption Song)