Peace SwedenMajidah,
Maybe you have forgotten:
Forum Rules - READ!
? on: May 19, 2004, 09:17:31 AM ?
1] The Administrator and Moderator has the final say on all interpretation and implementation of forum rules and guidelines. Any questions about these decisions should be inquired to any of the moderators through a private message (PM) for clarification.
2] Please note that this forum is primarily dedicated to the study and understanding of the Scripture (Quran). Thus,
mocking it or not being able to back-up claims with specifics will all result in deletion of such posts and/or removal of topic and/or disciplinary action being taken against the offending member.
Basically calling the quran a figment of Muhammad's imagination and not from the creator of the universe whom we call Allah, is MOCKING IT! Remember that it is you that endorsed the following piece of blasphemy:
Quote from: Mohammad Saleem Khan on August 16, 2007, 12:49:46 AM
Does presnt highly technologically advanced world requires a supersticious concept of a supernatural diety to be accepted as master lord of universe and to rely upon. Every civilzation has given a name to such a non existing supernatural diety since ages in all languages and these languages have been developed by human itself during an evolutionary course of milloion of years and attributed words names to objects, state, activites. So is the case with thsat diety. In english it is "GOD" in hindi it is"BHAGWAN", in farsi it is "AHARMAN & YZDAN" in egypy it was "OSIRIS" in greek it was "SATURN" "JUPITER" etc. and in arabic it is "ALLAH" which may have its originn from dead aramic or hebrew.
So the first point is to define what GOD is? what is its concept? than define what is a religion? why a human need it? if not than what is it that human should take guidance from?
Moreover why maculine gender like "HE", "HIM" "HIS" are used for Allah or God? every thing is differentiated and recognised, identified, specified from its opposite, so if God is HE a male than it must be different from a female, and differnce is based on physical structure, so Allah or God must be having male organ and also reproductive organ also otherwise that God cant be called as HE HIM HIs, but this all unacceptable.
All explanations, clarification should be logicall and scintific and justifiable.
Why a person should seek guidance from a book existing in arabic language attributed to a supernatural male diety, is that diety commonluy called as ALLAH or GOD is arabic? why should a person first take pains to learn arbic language and than seek guidance. If allah is master of entire universe than it should have sent guidance in all languages to all people of world but why arabic? why one should follow arabs and arabic cultural and customs?
How can one explain logically that this mterialistically arabic book called as Quran and other scriptures as claimed by aother reliogionists such as bilble etc are from that unseen supernatural non material diety? is it logically acceptable?
Suppose a person to day declares that he is a messenger of god and reveletions are being sebnt down upon him by an unseen spicie called as angel, will any one believe on him?
So the concept of a humanly God is self created and illogical.
Wha we have with us in front and around us is nature and its laws in universe, which we are supposed to accept and follow. As faras the creator is concerned we are not obliged to serach it out and to implore and beg to it, worship it su[persticiously please it by bowing down , prostrating, offering sacrifices of animals, that creator what ever it is does not demand us to do all these ritual self made worshipping activities.
All those persons who are called as prophets or messengers are actually reformers, revoluionists, intellegent philosphers who mioght have revolotionalized thier socities in which they live and they all must have ben messengers of laws of nature.
The cretaor of this universe does not at all ionterfere in human matters, not concerned with any activity. Laws have been gine to us by that creator which we have to follow, Tjhat LAW is actually God or Allah[/i][/u].
Quran was also written by Mohammad arabic in his mother language in arabic society after deep observing nature and his society. He must have been a great philospher, tourist, traveller, trader, ihtellegent person a wealthy powerful educated man of his time whio revolutinalized his system.
Constructive positive comments/replies are highly appriciable and respected.
Mohammad saleem Khan
with the following quote:
Quote from: SwedenMajidah on November 23, 2007, 07:05:22 PM
Peace Brother,
I just love what you have written above
For me all so called religious scriptures have both excellent points and not so convinced verses and if we read them with an open mind you might notice of which you shall take as a guide and which it's best you leave behind.
Peace
Maria
So while it is obvious that you were one of the first members to this forum, sometime after the time you joined, the owner of the site decided to come up with rules for this forum; the above one of which I highlighted, you are not adhering to this qualification, nor is the orginal poster of this information.
While Free-minds may be the title of the website, I think the forum rules better define the purpose of the forum than your own idea of what "freeminds" means to YOU. Also, while I think this website and forum invites all people to come to join in the study of this scripture, it is not a liscense to mock the scripture as has been done and then endorsed by you; as is evidenced by the forum rules.
I seriously think the owner of the site needs to consider your views and mocking of the scripture, and not their friendship with you, to make a change in your being qualified to be a moderator for this forum. Being a member is not a problem, as eventually it may lead you to guidance from Allah through Al Quran. But blasphemy against Allah and Al Quran through mocking them are already a part of the forum rules as something not to be accepted. So how can it be accepted from a "moderator"?
Quote from: SwedenMajidah on November 24, 2007, 08:19:59 PM
Peace,
It amaze me more that you seems to have forgot that this forum is made for everyone no matter of what kind of beliefs you have. And doesn't the forum name "Free-Minds" telling you something?
And who is God? and who is Shaitan? can you tell me that???
I'm one of the first members of this forum but you are just a newbeginner.
Maria
I may be a "newbeginner" in your eyes. So that can mean to you whatever it means to you. Maybe you think Allah favors you more because of how long you have been here?
Oh wait, you don't believe in Allah, Allah is only the universe to you; hence creation. That's called SHIRK in Al Quran. So no wonder you have a problem understanding who is God and who is Shaitan. Enough said.
As Salaamu Alaikum,