a challenge to quran aloners!!!

[mr. humble]

salaam,

in this thread i will share a surprising story of a muslim with you? please read the link for verification, i will post later when i have time to post inshallah!!

http://www.everystudent.com/wires/radical.html

peace, rifat

[Lobster]

I do not believe heaven is a place with a price tag on it, which can be bought by our deeds, but only through God's Mercy and grace.

yeah. You just have to buy God's mercy and grace too by performing stupid rituals. Or maybe God just picks and chooses people he shows his mercy and grace to.

I saw an image of a handsome person on the floor where we bow our heads in prayer. I was shocked. I never saw such a thing before. It was kind of an image on water. I heard in myself that this is Jesus Christ. This is the Lord!

[jankren]

I dont think the story is relevant to the title of this thread. What challenge r u talking about?

[Samia]

dont think the story is relevant to the title of this thread. What challenge r u talking about?

Yes. He was never a qur'aan aloner. He was an idolater and is till one.

[mr. humble]

salaam,

the reason why i said "a challenge to quran aloners" is because that guy brought up some good points which we read in the quran and perhaps they contradict the quran. some of his points were:

1. why does the quran says all the previous scriptures has been corrupted while the quran also says jesus , moses and others followed the same message. he makes some other good points which portrays islam as violent and unscientific, like you would have done the same if you were in his shoes... please read for verification...

i think he was obsessed with islam and it's teachings?!? i don't know


peace, rifat

[Lobster]

peace

It's the fakest personal story I've ever read.
BUT, he makes a very very very good point here:
I had learned in the Quran that our first parents, Adam and Eve, were living in Paradise until they committed sin. (This is the same in the Bible.) But in the Quran I was told they were forgiven of their sins. I asked my Muslim friends, "If they were forgiven of their sin, then why did God being so merciful and gracious make them leave the garden? Does it mean He did not forgive them?"
He's right. The story doesn't add up. UNLESS we realize that the garden is here on earth in this life.

[moslem]

peace

  i say this story is completely faked, an ex-muslim would never say things like

I praise and thank God for sending His Son the Lord Jesus Christ to die for me and for all of us

Plus,

1. why does the quran says all the previous scriptures has been corrupted while the quran also says jesus , moses and others followed the same message. he makes some other good points which portrays islam as violent and unscientific, like you would have done the same if you were in his shoes... please read for verification...

i don't see where does he find anything wrong in it?
It was the same message for sure, moses, jesus and mohamed and all the prophets called for one thing:
belief in GOD. And their scriptures were true until sick people came to change it whether deleting, adding or
distorting SOME verses. That's why the messages were lost, and each time a prophet was sent to get it back.

[khurram]

the article posted quotes the Quran as stating that God forgot the some verses.

the quran says that God caused some to be forgotten and replaced them with the same or better ayah.

[prashant_kumar]

Was Mohammad on the straight path? Is Islam the straight path? I encourage all Muslims to ask him or herself is it really true what they are doing to get to heaven?

What if Muhammad was a false prophet or Islam is false?? How does it prove that Jesus was the son of God??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If Islam is false, I should leave it. But why should I believe that Jesus was the son of God?

   

[NoProgressive]

Salaam,

One thing that always strikes me as odd with these converstion stories is the use of the word "Allah" and "God".

It's pretty clear that Allah is only the arabic word for God... Christian Arabs use the word "Allah".

So when an "apostate" starts using the word "Allah" to reflect on his life as a Muslim, and then the word "God" as they have become something else.... I find it really silly. So much so that I quesiton the credibility of the stories.

I mean if I suddenly became a Jew, I would be saying "Yea, as a Muslim I believed in Allah but now I believe in God". It makes no sense!

salaam