Tay, JFYI, you don't need to address by 'Peace' on each and every replies and I really don't mind as I understand its a continuous converstation, but then again, I shall leave that up to you. I rather prefer being realistic.
This is where you're wrong. Potential and ability to fulfil that potential are not the same, Danish. More data does not mean more potential. 500mb of storage does not change if you have more or less data than 500mb. The potential stays the same no matter what.
Agreed.
Tay, the more the data, the more or better the potential. Your analogy of 500mb becomes restrictive and moot, simply because if I had 550mb of data, your storage cannot hold and would thus require more storage (potential) to store that xtra data and hence retain all information. Why are so bent with desperation to misunderstand a simple fact and bring about silly analogies, beats me?
Context. "System" is a word you used in the title of this thread. You did not get "system" from the qur'an. Further, you said a religion cannot be a system. Since we're using English words, I provided the English definitions.
Okay fine, and I gave you an answer either way. Further, it was
you who contended towards Islam being neither a system nor a religion, and I acknowledged it.
Please provide the evidence that I made a single superstitious claim, else, stand corrected.
O com'on Tay, don't be such a naive pain in the butt. Not only yours but this entire forum is full of such claims and you know exactly what I've been talking about. You are acting like a child now.
I see. Historical information = hadith? Other sources = no other sources? Current views = someone's opinion? World views = media? Interesting how not included in your criterion is the arabic language itself, nor your own understanding of the text. Like I said, subjective. And you accuse me of being selective?
I'm sorry, but I call your above two quoted replies as "bull-crap" or victimization. This happens too often when religious fanciful and wishful adherents start losing grounds.
I'm trying to achieve dialogue, between Tay and Danish, without the constant interference of your mind's compelling desire to bring the entire muslim world into the mix. You've known me long enough to know that I don't buy what the majority is selling. It's truly disappointing to see this regression coming from you.
This regression and arrogance of yours will come out of its hibernation when majority becomes Quranists. Let me know how would you handle the minority's view then? The majority line of reasoning, is the one of most vicious and crooked argument Islamists has invented. If the majority is right, you will cheerlead, but when they are wrong you will spit out the magical verse. How convenient!!!
My appointment has not changed my persona. Have I ever treated you this way before?
The rules are the rules, bro. You know what they are and you know the limits. It's not my place to guarantee anything. I'm just a helper.
All I know that your rules as per Quran are not my rules and certainly not the rules of 6+ billion people living succesfully and meaningfully today. But ofcourse, as per your persona, the majority are wrong and they simply can't help in living their purposeful natural ways without the Quran. O well, tough luck to all "miserable" ones, they will abide in hell either way and I am sure I shall be treated well in hell, like Abraham did.
Criticism and discussion is fine, and you know that. What I'm talking about is our discussion right here and now. I presented my view, answering your question at the title of this thread, and you didn't address it. What you did was tell me it's irrelevant and that it's wishful thinking. Not very cool. If that's the way you're going to handle your threads, then let me know and I'll refrain from wasting my time.
Tay, what are bungling about now. I really don't seem to understand you. One minute you start talking about intelligence only and the next on personal issues and then on titles of thread. It is you who is hip-hopping from side to side and blaming me for it. Is this your newly moderated rule of way in expounding to expunge me. Check who I gave my first response to on this thread AFTER taxing me for a month and then you barged in to respond. Revert, read and reflect, and come to your senses please.
In ending, you of all people should know that views and understandings change with time. We remain open-minded and we discuss and share thoughts and keep things respectful, and all is well. There will always be disagreement. But no one on this forum holds a monopoly on the truth. As long as you come at me with that attitude, we're better off not discussing at all.
I just hope there's no political vandalism by "defeat" to cause an unecessary effect on "attitude" by superiority complex. That's all.