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A Challenge to Those Who Reject the Divinity of Al-Quraan
« on: May 16, 2006, 08:34:34 AM »
Key : The Camp Against Al-Quraan's Divinity : (A)
        The Camp Supporting Al-Quraan's Divinity (P)   
This is a formal challenge to everyone here who reject the divinity of Al-Quraan to a moderated debate as per the moderated debate suggestion in the other thread especially to the following individuals:
1. Enquirer
2. Danish
3. Lote-Tree

The format of the debate - which I am prepared to negotiate on- is tentatively as follows:
1. A will forward an argument supporting it's cause, perhaps a contradiction

2. B will reply or seek clarification and the moderator in question will see if the response or clarification will meet A's aforementioned argument.

3. B will then ask A a question vis-a-vis the nature or basis of his argument.

4. A will respond and moderators will determine if the answer has been answered.

This will continue until the argument is satisfactorily treated.

My suggestion for moderator : Layth or Zenje.

Awaiting your responses. Let us now see the substance of your positions.

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Re: A Challenge to Those Who Reject the Divinity of Al-Quraan
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2006, 11:54:23 AM »
peace

I didn't really want it to be called The Quran Challenge. Why does it have to be such a big deal. Why a challenge? why not just a question that needs an answer?
It shouldn't be one side vs the other. It should be a contructive debate and discussion from which all can learn. Not a challenge. No one here is God's Holy warrior, we are all God's servants seeking answers.

please delete this post once the name has been change.
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Re: A Challenge to Those Who Reject the Divinity of Al-Quraan
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2006, 02:12:31 PM »
Peace mquran

For this debate to be fair you wold have to use two impartial moderaters who do not support either side and I belive that neither Layth or Zenje fit the bill .

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Re: A Challenge to Those Who Reject the Divinity of Al-Quraan
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2006, 02:47:17 PM »
I suugest that The Nabi be one of those moderators, he is very reasonable

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Re: A Challenge to Those Who Reject the Divinity of Al-Quraan
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2006, 02:59:56 PM »
Again... First the two members, then the mod(s).

Peace  :)
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Re: A Challenge to Those Who Reject the Divinity of Al-Quraan
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2006, 09:02:26 PM »
Salam Brethren

Can't go wrong with with Savage_Carot and TheGod as Moderators . Impartiality is Guaranteed  :) .


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Re: A Challenge to Those Who Reject the Divinity of Al-Quraan
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2006, 04:22:39 AM »
Peace all. I am still waiting for wakas' response,some guidelines,and a choice of moderators.... :)

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Re: A Challenge to Those Who Reject the Divinity of Al-Quraan
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2006, 04:48:38 AM »
i gave my response in the other thread. I said give me a specific subject and the specific point and your position on it and I'll see whether I want to accept or not.

I cant give a blanket yes without knowing what specific topic will be discussed.

You suggested phoenix and idol-free as mods. I'm fine with that.
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Re: A Challenge to Those Who Reject the Divinity of Al-Quraan
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2006, 04:59:28 AM »
Peace wakas. I have already set out the questions,and my general position...They are in the general section,or you can look at my 'most recent' posts...
Peace all.

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Re: A Challenge to Those Who Reject the Divinity of Al-Quraan
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2006, 05:26:25 AM »
Peace bro Wakas,

Here is the post containing enquirer's questions.

Quote from: enquirer
Peace wakas. Two seperate points we can debate,either;
1) How literalism creates contradictions in the quranic text... Or,
2) Are the quranic laws relevant for all times,or only the 'spirit/'implied morality' of these laws?
My opinion is that literalism creates contradictions,so one has to resort to 'justifications' to correct these contradictions....
My opinion is that the quranic laws are not relevent for all times,and only some of the underlying morality is needed for todays society....
Im open to any topics you,or anyone else wants to dicuss...
I am not,repeat am not,an enemy of quran...But i dislike the quran being used for justifying  human oppression....My aim is not to win this dicussion,or prove my ego...But to increase understanding of these topics,so we can benefit the forum,and benefit humanity....Which im sure we can unite on...
Peace all.
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