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new jinn theory / jinn hunting....

Started by jinn_hunter, April 13, 2006, 05:15:56 PM

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jinn_hunter

I have been trying to find a jinn. I thought that if i find / see a jinn with my own eyes, it proves that jinns exist and so islam must be true. If only it was so simple.

I've been reading up on a lot of theories and have come to a conclusion. This theory was actually but forward by someone else but i cant find the link. The crux of it is basically that:

'Jinns', considered as supernatural shapeshifting beings, do not exist. 'Jinn' means 'unseen', and so when the quran was talking about jinns , it mean 'the unseen'. This included anything living that was unseen at the time, i.e. bacteria, viruses, tribes who hid in the mountains / forests (therefore being the 'unseen' people), small bugs and parasites.

Now look back at the texts talking about jinns, it seems to make more sense.  Hangs around toilets and dirty places, clean youself or the jinn will come? viruses obviously. Stays on snakes and dogs? smalls bugs and parasites. Flies through the air? diseases, virsues. And for the texts about when people met jinns / were kidnapped by jinns, 'jinns' refered to the unseen tribes who hid around the place / tribes of criminals who remained  out of sight of society. NOWHERE in the quran does it say that jinns can possess people.

All videos of people being possessed are false. People cannot get posseseed by these jinns as they do not exist like that. All of these 'possesions'  can be explained by science and psychology, if you put your mystical stuff to one side. These are conditions that can be treated and ARE treated, not by imams but by doctors. People seeing jinns in the middle of the night? look up 'paralysis attacks' on the internet! please! so many people come to me and say they have seen a jinn and describe the symptons of paralysis attack its unbelieable.
 
Summoning a jinn? these kind of seances and summonings are false and have been proven false by western scientitst for years.

Has anyone here actually seen one of these mystical jinns with their own eyes? No! taken a photo of one? of course not. The only evidence people show me is 'possessed' people (really mentally ill people whose condition has not been diagnosed due to the poor country not having a psychology department) and stupid videos on the internet.

I'd love to hear your views on this / hear from someone who really honestly thinks THEY (not their family) have SEEN a jinns face not just "i felt there was something in the room".

KGB

Jin Hunter

I lived in alone in a very big house which really was very scary experience. I don't know whether they were jinns or something else but sure there was something. There was one more incident which I really don't have any logical explnation.

Besides these two experiences I really did not feel any fear or seen anything else. If you catch any jin during your hunting share with us.
Qur'an - The Final Words of Allah (SWT).
Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is The Last Prophet & The Last Messenger.
Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) Rahmatan lil AAalameena.
Prophet Muhammad is Rosool Allah.
Prophet Muhammad is Kathim un Nabieen.

Arnold Yasin

Peace,

KGB, in big houses, and also old houses, because of the build of materials and the always slight vibration of the earth, this together creates a slight electro-magnetic field, which can causes slight differences in your senses and memory. Because of this, people can feel,hear or see things which are not there. Certain building materials were always the common thing which a lot of 'haunted'houses had.

Peace

Andya Primanda

Jinns as microorganisms?  Now that's something new...
29:20
Say: 'Travel through the earth and see how Allah initiate creation!'

Lobster

QuoteKGB, in big houses, and also old houses, because of the build of materials and the always slight vibration of the earth, this together creates a slight electro-magnetic field, which can causes slight differences in your senses and memory. Because of this, people can feel,hear or see things which are not there. Certain building materials were always the common thing which a lot of 'haunted'houses had.
or it could just be a mental illness, or even better, a conspiracy. I'll let Magi take over from here. :)
peace.
`What lies before us and what lies behind us is nothing compared to what lies within us.` - Emerson

'Phoenix! You are in Hot water, maybe you should change your name to Lobster.' - Khalil

mr. humble

peace all,

if jinn is "the unseen" then how come allah did not use the word "jinn" in this verse:الذين يؤمنون بالغيب ويقيمون الصلوة ومما رزقنهم ينفقون (arabic)Those who believe in the
Quoteunseen
, and uphold the contact-method, and from Our provisions to them they spend(2:3).


do you not think :)?

peace, rifat

Arnold Yasin

God uses different words that mean the same everywhere throughout the Quran, also the jinn refer to the things not seen that are connected with us, that are made by us. I have written an article about it, i will send it to you personaly, because it is not ready yet to post on the forum. But jinn can refer to legnds, desires, fantasies, people from foreign regions, nomads, hermits, munks, travellers and so on. So the unseen refers to in that verse, is a different unseen, then with the term jinn. As this is directly connected with the humans.

Peace

soul2squeeze

Peace
I don't know what you could call this... but back when I was in college my roommate and I would hear children's laughter that turned into really horrible screams as if something tragic was happening to them. Then a door would slam shut or a light switch would shut off and back on again. There were countless other scary instances we both experienced in that apartment. While I don't know if they were jinn or something else, there definitely was something doing that. We both couldn't have been temporarily insane at the same time  ;D

Arnold Yasin

Peace,

People underestimate the influence we have on matter. A lot of times when things moved it had to do with a person in the group that was extra sensitive and could connect to influence matter.

Read this post to get a better understanding:

http://www.free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=5616.msg83858#msg83858

Peace

KGB

It will be a waste of time discussing jinn issue because most of you will deny the clear verses of Qur'an with your own understanding of getting the meaning what you wanted by searching and picking up the defination which is more suited to your minds.

15:27 And the jinn race, We had created before, from the fire of a scorching wind.

18:50 Behold! We said to the angels, "Bow down to Adam": They bowed down except Iblis. He was one of the jinns, and he broke the Command of his Lord. Will ye then take him and his progeny as protectors rather than Me? And they are enemies to you! Evil would be the exchange for the wrong-doers!



Qur'an - The Final Words of Allah (SWT).
Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is The Last Prophet & The Last Messenger.
Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) Rahmatan lil AAalameena.
Prophet Muhammad is Rosool Allah.
Prophet Muhammad is Kathim un Nabieen.