News:

About us: a forum for monotheists, and discussion of Islam based on The Quran

Main Menu

Most of the people in hell are poor people

Started by Emre_1974tr, October 23, 2021, 07:13:40 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

Emre_1974tr

Holy Quran 43:54 Thus he incited his people to levity, and they obeyed him: for, behold, they were people depraved!

In addition, some verses say that those who are oppressed in Hell curse their oppressors. In other words, there are more poor and oppressed people in hell than rich.

Because they were bad people and they suffered in the world too.

Holy Quran corrects the false Bible

Quran
7:40 Those who have denied Our signs, and reacted to them with arrogance, the gates of the sky will not open for them, nor will they enter paradise until the camel passes through the eye of a needle. It is such that We recompense the criminals.


Not rich peoples, bad peoples go to hell.

Holy Quran is anticommunist book.

but Bible is a pagan communist book.
[url="https://twitter.com/Emre_1974tr"]https://twitter.com/Emre_1974tr[/url]

[url="http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com/"]http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com/[/url]

Sarah

Peace

Interesting point. Not going against your point however, good people can suffer and live in poverty too.

'These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth. Then in what statement (hadith) after Allah and His verses will they believe? (45:6)'

Emre_1974tr

Quote from: Sarah on October 23, 2021, 09:04:10 PM
Peace

Interesting point. Not going against your point however, good people can suffer and live in poverty too.




Yes, because good people can have some bad sides too. And they pay the price of their bad side with poverty and pain in this world.
[url="https://twitter.com/Emre_1974tr"]https://twitter.com/Emre_1974tr[/url]

[url="http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com/"]http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com/[/url]

Sarah

Quote from: Emre_1974tr on October 23, 2021, 09:36:47 PM

Yes, because good people can have some bad sides too. And they pay the price of their bad side with poverty and pain in this world.

So you're saying everything bad happens because of bad deeds? What about people born with illnesses and disabilities? I thought unfortunate events happen for the atonement of sins yes but also for the purpose of being tested?

What about animals that suffer? Do they suffer for their sins? Can animals commit sin?

'These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth. Then in what statement (hadith) after Allah and His verses will they believe? (45:6)'

Emre_1974tr

Quote from: Sarah on October 23, 2021, 09:44:51 PM
So you're saying everything bad happens because of bad deeds? What about people born with illnesses and disabilities? I thought unfortunate events happen for the atonement of sins yes but also for the purpose of being tested?

What about animals that suffer? Do they suffer for their sins? Can animals commit sin?

God knows what you will do before he creates you. The thing called test is to confront you with yourself. In this way, your right to object in the hereafter disappears.

As for animals; I think that animals and plants do not have pain-tasting selves. From the outside, animals and plants look like they are suffering, but they can be like their computer program.
[url="https://twitter.com/Emre_1974tr"]https://twitter.com/Emre_1974tr[/url]

[url="http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com/"]http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com/[/url]

Sarah

'As for animals; I think that animals and plants do not have pain-tasting selves. From the outside, animals and plants look like they are suffering, but they can be like their computer program.'

Where's the evidence for that? I have a pet, I know animals can suffer. You feel their pain when they suffer and you're supposed to help them out of the pain and suffering. You also hear it in their cries and see it in their faces. Is that all just pretend? Animals are not robots, they're real.

'And there is no creature on [or within] the earth or bird that flies with its wings except [that they are] communities like you. We have not neglected in the Register a thing. Then unto their Lord they will be gathered.' 6:38
'These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth. Then in what statement (hadith) after Allah and His verses will they believe? (45:6)'

Emre_1974tr

Quote from: Sarah on October 23, 2021, 11:21:51 PM
'As for animals; I think that animals and plants do not have pain-tasting selves. From the outside, animals and plants look like they are suffering, but they can be like their computer program.'

Where's the evidence for that? I have a pet, I know animals can suffer. You feel their pain when they suffer and you're supposed to help them out of the pain and suffering. You also hear it in their cries and see it in their faces. Is that all just pretend? Animals are not robots, they're real.

'And there is no creature on [or within] the earth or bird that flies with its wings except [that they are] communities like you. We have not neglected in the Register a thing. Then unto their Lord they will be gathered.' 6:38

Of course we should help animals. In the same way, we should help the plants.

As I said, they look suffer from  the outside. But it may not be their selves who actually feel it. I mean, they're real, but they can be like computer programs.

https://www-hurriyet-com-tr.translate.goog/gundem/oltacilar-iciniz-rahat-olsun-cunku-baliklar-aci-duymuyor-38540182?_x_tr_sl=tr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=tr&_x_tr_pto=nui
[url="https://twitter.com/Emre_1974tr"]https://twitter.com/Emre_1974tr[/url]

[url="http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com/"]http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com/[/url]

Emre_1974tr

Quote from: Emre_1974tr on October 23, 2021, 07:13:40 PMHoly Quran 43:54 Thus he incited his people to levity, and they obeyed him: for, behold, they were people depraved!

In addition, some verses say that those who are oppressed in Hell curse their oppressors. In other words, there are more poor and oppressed people in hell than rich.

Because they were bad people and they suffered in the world too.

Holy Quran corrects the false Bible

Quran
7:40 Those who have denied Our signs, and reacted to them with arrogance, the gates of the sky will not open for them, nor will they enter paradise until the camel passes through the eye of a needle. It is such that We recompense the criminals.


Not rich peoples, bad peoples go to hell.

Holy Quran is anticommunist book.

but Bible is a pagan communist book.

4:97 Those whom the controllers take, while they had wronged themselves; were asked, "What situation were you in?" They responded, "We were oppressed on earth." They asked, "Was God's earth not wide enough that you could emigrate in it?" To these their abode will be hell; what a miserable destiny;
[url="https://twitter.com/Emre_1974tr"]https://twitter.com/Emre_1974tr[/url]

[url="http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com/"]http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com/[/url]