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Started by samina, December 22, 2005, 11:20:58 AM

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Leena

Salam alaikum,

Can anyone tell what she is saying in the video, besides the obvious?  Is there anything really extraordinary about it?

mquran, I understand your point about "not really knowing" if one is possessed or mentally ill.  But we know that illnesses can be controlled or eliminated by medication or therapy, does that mean (if it was a jinn) that the jinn is removed by medicine?

Do only religious people admit that their "fits" are possession?  Are the others are just psych-patients?
Wa alaikum salam

mquran

Quotemquran, I understand your point about "not really knowing" if one is possessed or mentally ill. But we know that illnesses can be controlled or eliminated by medication or therapy, does that mean (if it was a jinn) that the jinn is removed by medicine?

i'm sorry but I don't know the nature of jinn. Im just not ready to dismiss something because of my location in the chronological scale of humanity. Nothing is 'too medieval' for me.


QuoteDo only religious people admit that their "fits" are possession? Are the others are just psych-patients?

Psychiatry isn't an objective science. If it were, there wouldn't be many divergent schools. Freud himself faced opponents from his intellectual rivals Jung and Adler.

Leena

Salam,

I am not saying that you should dismiss it, I was only asking.

Does Quran allow for the idea of possession by jinn (or anything)?
Wa alaikum salam

mquran

QuoteI am not saying that you should dismiss it, I was only asking.

I know you're not but this is the reason I'm raising this inquiry. I feel that 'modernity' has somehow turned into a consuming illusion. Strangely, if we believe history, Hegel and Marx thought the same of their own epochs, that they were somehow better off that those before. We know how both turned out.

QuoteDoes Quran allow for the idea of possession by jinn (or anything)?

Its an accusation disbelievers make against the messengers sometimes. Strangely, its not repudiated by saying jinns are simply 'maradh' or a disease.

Lobster

peace mquran

go watch "The exorcism of Emily Rose." You'll understand.
`What lies before us and what lies behind us is nothing compared to what lies within us.` - Emerson

'Phoenix! You are in Hot water, maybe you should change your name to Lobster.' - Khalil

TheNabi

Peace MQ

I would not call Freud's system a science, but Frued was a trained scientist. It lacked emphirical verification and had limited predictive models. There were conclusions presented without explanations of how he arrived there. Jung and Freud viewed personality differently. Psychology does have a firm footing in the sciences.

Joe
All information in my posts is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should seek for verification & knowledge. ~> [3/190-191; 17/

samina

for pple who think there r no jinns pls let read my story below

my aunt was possessed by a jinn ,we all thought she is sick and badly needs a doctor ,anyway so dis is how the incident goes, one of my aunts frend goes to visit my aunt on the way she meets of her other frend and startes talking to her ,and when finally she reaches my aunts place , my aunt starts scolding her she tells" u think i am ur servent dat i keep waitinf for u here n u start chatting wid other pple on ur way "
now the question is how did my aunt know dat her frend was talkin to someone on the way ?how? my aunt was all the time at home

here is another incident my sister was stayin in india for her studies n evrynite in her room she would here banging sounds as if there is some work goin in the above  apartment ,she couldnt sleep well the whole nite n  next morning she yells at the watchman dat sometime u choose to do work on the apartment above mine , the watchman becomes shocked he tells my sister u think i am crazy to do work at nite on the apartment?
the samthing went on for very long ,it used to be evrynite, dat ma sister got used to it , n sometimes durin her exams when she would study over nite she would yelldat " pls stop makin noises i have to study for ma exams" n surprisingly the noises would stop now dats some understanding jinn i guess  :D

i have heard many such stories from almost all the members of my family and
u may also have  heard many such stories but  its up to u to believe in them

as far as the clip above is concerned i dont know anything abt tht clip i just found the link at other forum so i thought of posting it here

ofcourse fanatic pple do act crazy at times dat doesnt mean u pple think dat no person can eva get possessed by jinn  

i am not so sure if Allah tells in quran abt jinns possessing humans
but i think  in surat al naaz and surat al falaz we are prayinG to Allah to keep us away from jinns i am not so sure i am just assuming becoz in surat al falaq we r praying to Allah to keep us away from all
From the evil of what He has created,
And from the evil of the utterly dark night when it comes
From the mischief of those who practise secret arts;
And from the mischief of the envious one as he practises envy.

mquran

QuoteJoe:I would not call Freud's system a science, but Frued was a trained scientist. It lacked emphirical verification and had limited predictive models. There were conclusions presented without explanations of how he arrived there. Jung and Freud viewed personality differently. Psychology does have a firm footing in the sciences

You may think me pedantic for this one but what does it mean to have a 'firm rooting in the sciences' ?

Freud is now being accused for transposing his assumptions from the Talmud. If you want, i'll quote you the book, it's in my library somewhere. I actually saw paralell quotes.

SwedenMajidah

Salaam all,

Wow ghosts, jinns around us!!!!

Well I think we are surrounded of energies and that isn't so strange that it can make sounds sometimes :D

Don't be afraid is my advice!!!

Peace Maria

jonny_k

Salam all,
Please goto http://19.org/forum/index.php?t=msg&th=3353&start=0&rid=620&S=c71aec0c89a2325b3dea1a3c96c04594
and read my conversation with bro Saladin and tell me what you think.
"Sagt" means "says" in German. I was using the German msn thats why. Please note from the above conversation that ive actually seen two jinn like creatures ALONG WITH MY MOTHER. She too saw them and they FIT EXACTLY THE DESCRIPTION WE FIND FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD i.e. COMPLETELY WHITE AND SHINING WITH HUMAN LIKE SHAPE. Hoever i saw neither eyes nor mouth on their faces and they did not emit any smoke. Thus they were similar to the Quranic description of smokeless fire which can glow white or yellow or any other color depending on the substance. We know that from chemistry for sure. So taking all these points together can this be coincidence? Were we both dreaming? Did we see a projection(Hamelin at that time wasnt much developed and projection technology of this kind was uncommon in 1988 in such a small city/town)? Thus i conclude that they were real and the Quran supports it. GOD Bless!
[19:19] He said: I am only a messenger of thy Lord, that I may bestow on thee a faultless son.