Quran and 2:184 - what is the correct translation?

[Wakas]

peace all,

New article:

Quran and 2:184 - what is the correct translation?
http://mypercept.co.uk/articles/Quran-sawm-fasting.html

[Zach]

Excellent analysis!

[good logic]

It is not often one agrees fully with some interpretations.
With this one Wakas, it mirrors my exact understanding of the verse.

Another important point I take from this verse is that GOD knows us inside out , and has left us with no doubt whatsoever that fasting is very beneficial to us.
Our weakness is always to look for ways around things especially if we see any leeway. Our excuses are many when we do not like or want to do certain things.
What I found from fasting is the long term battle we win with our body and its desires plus the healing of the organs with resting from food ,drinks...etc is the ultimate reward.
The benefit of fasting is real.
GOD bless you.
Peace.

[imrankhawaja]

indeed very intelligently written and i have same view about 2:184.

brother WAKAS can you also detailed your analysis on 2:187 thats the core /important thing to discuss..

i just struggled in part وكلوا واشربوا if its metaphorical term for enjoying something including food/sex or its literally meanings consumption of FOOD/DRINK.. or consumption/doing of SEX

with crosscheck QURAN may consider it as metaphorical  example eating (INTEREST 2:275) eating (MONEY 2:188)...eating (properties of orphan 4:2).

in metaphorical terms of enjoying the provisions of HEREAFTER life too (69:24,77:43)...

same like salat you can also gather data about (SOUM) and if possible can we understand what was the (soum) of people before us any historical record ?

God bless us all.

[Amra94]

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[TellMeTheTruth]

Salam?

Agreed to brother Waqas' point of view. Would like to put my thoughts additionally. The phrase کتب علیکم is also used for qisas قصاص and qital قتال which seem volunteer acts and do not fall under فرض/obligation category.
I have a concern regarding the word فعدۃ. Does it mean a waiting till other days of Ramadan/next Ramadan? Or a counting of any other days after Ramadan? Thank you for your reply in advance
Peace!

[TellMeTheTruth]

Salam!

Another point needs some clarification and that is عاکفون فی المساجد. Where can i find its details while the meanings of the word masjid are not finalized?

Peace!

[Wakas]

peace all,

New article:

Quran and 2:184 - what is the correct translation?
http://mypercept.co.uk/articles/Quran-sawm-fasting.html

A timely reminder since some may be fasting at the moment.

[jkhan]

A timely reminder since some may be fasting at the moment.

Peace...
Good article... Explained most matters clearly... And comparisons are precise...

But I wish if the article includes the following since the article heading is 2:184

1... When to fast
2.... How many days to fast...

These are very essential...  Though all my lives eversince I started fasting I fasted conventional way but now I feel three days would do...
That's for me and don't take anyone as guidance... Follow what is good for you... Coz I don't find crystal clear from Quran or any research of Quran the exactness...
I fast three days based on comparison verse of 2:203 which perfectly make sense for me... And various other comparisons...

May God guide us and correct us while we look for the truth and not misguidance.... Let God make our pure intention come true with truth ..

If what I fasted in the past a complete month is right then God won't discard what I did in the past... Any how we all have fasted though it not mandatory..

[jkhan]

I have a sort of strong feeling that the phrase "Ayya'min ma'du'dath" is a well known Arabic phrase for three days especially for fixed matters... I feel It was a traditional way of calling instead of three days when the Quran was revealed in that particular community and around... Same as we call a decade for 10 years...
So instructions from God to the people who were the immediate recipients were crystal clear....
Unfortunately time elapsed and traditions changed and language meanings altered and added and omitted and so on to adapt to changing of time.... Not to discard Satans influence as well...

This is what makes so hard for current communities to grasp certain meanings of words and phrases within Quran.... But it can be intentional from God's side for certain people....

It's not the certain instructions that is ambiguous or unclear in Quran but the current language and traditions don't suit with Quranic language .... After all it was revealed to that community mainly targeting of their own issues and explanations of the past as well... But it is guidance for believers of all time in general.. . At least having such a book preserved is mercy Of God for us though we are not fortunate to live with a Prophet Messenger to pose our questions and get responded...

2:203 "And remember Allah during [specific] numbered days. Then whoever hastens [his departure] in two days - there is no sin upon him; and whoever delays [until the third] - there is no sin upon him - for him who fears Allah. And fear Allah and know that unto Him you will be gathered."

Can anyone say exactly how many days what is highlighted if not three?  In case if not three for how many days one should do and why?