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#1
Questions/Comments on the Quran / Re: Viewing things in the righ...
Last post by amin - Yesterday at 11:18:54 PMLiterally Quran=Recitation or Reading,
But why the name Recitation/reading, those earlier days, people used poem or phrases that were often repeated to spread some moral laws, truths,hymns etc it was there in all ancient communities and even now, this helps people remember.
Quran should be collection of Aayas
Aayaas=Signs that proves Allah(common goodness provider).
Signs or Aayas, needs to have a purpose, my point is, there are Ayahs/Signs mentioned within the book, that was often read or recited to remind people about God and thats only the Quran.
The prophet read certain Aayats signs/examples/laws for people to follow, revealed by God, to announce to people at specific instances and its called as Quran in the reading itself.
Some of verses that has referenced Quran.
Saheeh Internation...
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Qur'an, a guidance for the people and clear proofs of guidance and criterion.
7/204
So when the Qur'ān is recited, then listen to it and pay attention that you may receive mercy.
10/15
And when Our verses are recited to them as clear evidences, those who do not expect the meeting with Us say, "Bring us a Qur'an other than this or change it." Say,
"It is not for me to change it on my own accord. I only follow what is revealed to me. Indeed I fear, if I should disobey my Lord, the punishment of a tremendous Day."
12/2
Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand.
13/31
And if there was any qur'an by which the mountains would be removed or the earth would be broken apart or the dead would be made to speak, [it would be this Qur'an], but to Allah belongs the affair entirely. Then have those who believed not accepted that had Allah willed, He would have guided the people, all of them? And those who disbelieve do not cease to be struck, for what they have done, by calamity - or it will descend near their home - until there comes the promise of Allah. Indeed, Allah does not fail in [His] promise.
some were expecting The reading after read will cause the mountains to be moved, dead to speak, etc..
So here Verses are not just the verses, but signs, signs that proves there is God, reminds of his punishment, his rewards, his control etc.
So Quran is about God alone, his promises etc... that will be reminded to people repeatedly.
20/114
So high [above all] is Allah , the Sovereign, the Truth. And,
Why not hasten?
I think it asks the messenger to wait for him to gain the knowledge well, before announcing it to public.
25/32
And those who disbelieve say, "Why was the Qur'ān not revealed to him all at once?" Thus [it is] that We may strengthen thereby your heart. And We have spaced it distinctly.
But why the name Recitation/reading, those earlier days, people used poem or phrases that were often repeated to spread some moral laws, truths,hymns etc it was there in all ancient communities and even now, this helps people remember.
Quran should be collection of Aayas
Aayaas=Signs that proves Allah(common goodness provider).
Signs or Aayas, needs to have a purpose, my point is, there are Ayahs/Signs mentioned within the book, that was often read or recited to remind people about God and thats only the Quran.
The prophet read certain Aayats signs/examples/laws for people to follow, revealed by God, to announce to people at specific instances and its called as Quran in the reading itself.
Some of verses that has referenced Quran.
Saheeh Internation...
2/185
Qur'an, a guidance for the people and clear proofs of guidance and criterion.
7/204
So when the Qur'ān is recited, then listen to it and pay attention that you may receive mercy.
10/15
And when Our verses are recited to them as clear evidences, those who do not expect the meeting with Us say, "Bring us a Qur'an other than this or change it." Say,
"It is not for me to change it on my own accord. I only follow what is revealed to me. Indeed I fear, if I should disobey my Lord, the punishment of a tremendous Day."
12/2
Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur'an that you might understand.
13/31
And if there was any qur'an by which the mountains would be removed or the earth would be broken apart or the dead would be made to speak, [it would be this Qur'an], but to Allah belongs the affair entirely. Then have those who believed not accepted that had Allah willed, He would have guided the people, all of them? And those who disbelieve do not cease to be struck, for what they have done, by calamity - or it will descend near their home - until there comes the promise of Allah. Indeed, Allah does not fail in [His] promise.
some were expecting The reading after read will cause the mountains to be moved, dead to speak, etc..
So here Verses are not just the verses, but signs, signs that proves there is God, reminds of his punishment, his rewards, his control etc.
So Quran is about God alone, his promises etc... that will be reminded to people repeatedly.
20/114
So high [above all] is Allah , the Sovereign, the Truth. And,
- , do not hasten with [recitation of] the Qur'an before its revelation is completed to you, and say, "My Lord, increase me in knowledge." [/b]
Why not hasten?
I think it asks the messenger to wait for him to gain the knowledge well, before announcing it to public.
25/32
And those who disbelieve say, "Why was the Qur'ān not revealed to him all at once?" Thus [it is] that We may strengthen thereby your heart. And We have spaced it distinctly.
#2
Questions/Comments on the Quran / Re: Viewing things in the righ...
Last post by Mazhar - Yesterday at 07:40:14 AMQuote from: amin on March 15, 2025, 11:32:45 PMAbout the word Quran.
4/82 Shaheeh International
Then do they not reflect upon the Qur'ān?1 If it had been from [any] other than Allāh, they would have found within it much contradiction.
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O you who have believed, do not ask about things which, if they are shown to you, will distress you. But if you ask about them while the Qur'ān is being revealed, they will be shown to you. Allāh has pardoned it [i.e., that which is past]; and Allāh is Forgiving and Forbearing.
— Saheeh International
so what is the Quran here, how its referenced within here, is it the book we have now as commonly understood? we know from common narrative the book we have was collected by so and so after the death of prophet, compiled etc..
so it can not be referenced here, right? or is it referring to the previous revealed written down list of verses?
I am thinking of the word Quran refers to "the teachings or collection of laws made by the prophet as revealed".
7. Unique choice of Title of Divine Book: ٱلْقُرْءَانُ Qur'ān: Discourse that warps Space-time.
7.1 Translator must know "reading" begins before opening the Book in hand, like digestion starts before tasting food. Good Title is like the aroma of delicious food served that is appetizing. A truth seeking critical reader is always thirsty and feeling appetite for the only uncountable ingestible which is nothing but knowledge. A similarity between the exciting-to-read title of the book and digestive system is that it begins on mere sight before tasting. Saliva begins to form and secrete. If the title is meaningful, descriptive, amazing and attractive, the heart is attracted to taste (skim) the book. It was first seen when it was presented by the Archangel to the chosen and exalted allegiant on his appointment as the Universal Messenger that he started hurriedly reading it when he was interrupted:
https://haqeeqat.pk/TranslationMethadology1.htm#5.Title
#3
General Issues / Questions / Re: The false narrative : Chan...
Last post by Fusion - March 16, 2025, 12:07:12 PMQuote from: hawk99 on March 14, 2025, 09:24:29 PMPeace All,
Interesting thread, I was wondering, what do members think of the verse about "Umm al-Kitab".
God bless you all.
Salam Hawk,
Based on the verses which contain this word and the surrounding verses -add to it what GL explained. I believe It is a common factor - sort of a meeting point where God's Absolute knowledge and the human realm of guidance connect.
Think of it as universal database of divine knowledge ==> the governing system of reality, where both revelation and destiny originate. The Quran which is revealed in Arabic originates from a divine record that holds all revelations given to humanity across time, think of it as an installment from that grand source, adapted for human understanding (else divine wisdom operates on a scale beyond human perception).
Since am from Technology background we have something called single source of truth and i consider meaning of Um Al Kitab as The Divine Database, the Origin of all information (a cosmic register of all data, all laws, all events).
So for example when the Quran says Allah can erase or confirm what He wills, means the rise and fall of Nations based on whether they follow divine principles, but all of it follows the laws contained in the "Divine Database" of Allah's knowledge.
IN OTHER WORDS, nothing is random or chaotic; everything is according to sunnat Allah which is ultimately documented in the Mother of the Book.
#4
Questions/Comments on the Quran / Re: Viewing things in the righ...
Last post by amin - March 15, 2025, 11:32:45 PMAbout the word Quran.
4/82 Shaheeh International
Then do they not reflect upon the Qur'ān?1 If it had been from [any] other than Allāh, they would have found within it much contradiction.
5/101
O you who have believed, do not ask about things which, if they are shown to you, will distress you. But if you ask about them while the Qur'ān is being revealed, they will be shown to you. Allāh has pardoned it [i.e., that which is past]; and Allāh is Forgiving and Forbearing.
— Saheeh International
so what is the Quran here, how its referenced within here, is it the book we have now as commonly understood? we know from common narrative the book we have was collected by so and so after the death of prophet, compiled etc..
so it can not be referenced here, right? or is it referring to the previous revealed written down list of verses?
I am thinking of the word Quran refers to "the teachings or collection of laws made by the prophet as revealed".
4/82 Shaheeh International
Then do they not reflect upon the Qur'ān?1 If it had been from [any] other than Allāh, they would have found within it much contradiction.
5/101
O you who have believed, do not ask about things which, if they are shown to you, will distress you. But if you ask about them while the Qur'ān is being revealed, they will be shown to you. Allāh has pardoned it [i.e., that which is past]; and Allāh is Forgiving and Forbearing.
— Saheeh International
so what is the Quran here, how its referenced within here, is it the book we have now as commonly understood? we know from common narrative the book we have was collected by so and so after the death of prophet, compiled etc..
so it can not be referenced here, right? or is it referring to the previous revealed written down list of verses?
I am thinking of the word Quran refers to "the teachings or collection of laws made by the prophet as revealed".
#5
Questions/Comments on the Quran / Re: Viewing things in the righ...
Last post by amin - March 15, 2025, 09:59:12 PMMazhar,
Thats good,
So this is in the context of war, and asks the messenger possibly the king or leader to go for war, and saying no one can ask questions except yourselves, urge the believers in participating etc...
So the cause of Allah, can be any common cause.
Thats good,
So this is in the context of war, and asks the messenger possibly the king or leader to go for war, and saying no one can ask questions except yourselves, urge the believers in participating etc...
So the cause of Allah, can be any common cause.
#6
General Issues / Questions / Everything in the universe is ...
Last post by Emre_1974tr - March 15, 2025, 08:22:18 PMAnd of His signs are the ships sailing in the sea like mountains. If He willed, He could still the wind, and they would remain motionless upon its surface. Indeed in that are signs for every patient, grateful [servant]. (Quran 42:32-33)
The message intended in the verse is clear. If we can do something in this life, or if something happens, there is a reason for it. If the thing that enables it is removed, that action or occurrence will also cease.
Today, even if ships move with solar energy, nothing changes. This time, if the sun's light is stopped and doesn't reach our world, our ship will remain motionless.
Or, if the ship moves with oars, this time, if the physical laws that enable movement in this way are removed, the ship will remain immobile.
Of course, what is described here applies to every area of life. Or, if one of the elements necessary for the continuation of life is removed, life will also cease on our planet. If the physical laws that allow an airplane or a bird to stay in the air are removed, they cannot fly.
Have they not seen the birds controlled in the atmosphere of the sky? None holds them [aloft] except Allah. Indeed in that are signs for a people who believe. (Quran 16:79)
In short, the "sailing ships" in Surah Ash-Shura represent both "sailing ships," "all other technological vehicles," and "all the tasks we accomplish or that occur" in our lives.
By giving a small part of the whole, that whole is brought to mind.
Yasin
And We have created for them similar to it [ships] that they ride. (Quran 36:42)
Everything we think we do ourselves or that happens spontaneously actually happens through the order created by Allah and/or other things He has created. Or, in other words, our Lord directly accomplishes and creates these things.
Surah Al-Waqi'ah:
And you have already known the first creation, so will you not remember? (Quran 56:62)
Have you seen that [seed] which you sow? (Quran 56:63)
Is it you who makes it grow, or are We the grower? (Quran 56:64)
If We willed, We could have made it [dry] debris, and you would have remained in astonishment, (Quran 56:65)
[Saying], "Indeed, we are losers; (Quran 56:66)
Rather, we have been deprived." (Quran 56:67)
Have you seen the water that you drink? (Quran 56:68)
Is it you who brought it down from the clouds, or is it We who bring it down? (Quran 56:69)
If We willed, We could have made it bitter, so why are you not grateful? (Quran 56:70)
Have you seen the fire that you ignite? (Quran 56:71)
Is it you who produced its tree, or are We the producer? (Quran 56:72)
We have made it a reminder and a provision for the travelers. (Quran 56:73)
So exalt the name of your Lord, the Most Great. (Quran 56:74)
Then I swear by the places of the stars - (Quran 56:75)
And indeed, it is a great oath, if you only knew - (Quran 56:76)
Another similar example to ships becoming motionless is given for humans in Surah Al-Baqarah:
The lightning almost snatches away their sight. Every time it lights [the way] for them, they walk therein; but when darkness comes over them, they stand [still]. And if Allah had willed, He could have taken away their hearing and their sight. Indeed, Allah is over all things competent. (Quran 2:20)
O mankind, worship your Lord, who created you and those before you, that you may become righteous - (Quran 2:21)
[He] who has made for you the earth a bed [to lie on] and the sky a ceiling and sent down from the sky rain and brought forth thereby fruits as provision for you. So do not attribute to Allah equals while you know [that there is no god but Him]. (Quran 2:22)
We can realize what is called science and technology thanks to the physical laws that Allah has established and the reason and knowledge He has given us.
In short, all blessings, whether natural or technological, are the work of Allah. Past, present, and future...
And [He created] the horses, mules and donkeys for you to ride and [as] adornment. And He creates that which you do not know. (Quran 16:
And Allah has made for you from that which He has created shadows and has made for you from the mountains shelters and has made for you garments that protect you from the heat and garments that protect you from your [enemy in] battle. Thus does He complete His favor upon you that you might submit [to Him]. (Quran 16:81)
In fact, it was already programmed in our destiny what people would discover and use and when.
Actually, all of this is again for us to confront ourselves in this short 2-day test life, to see what we deserve in the hereafter, and to taste some small rewards or punishments in this world:
And Allah created the heavens and the earth in truth and that every soul may be recompensed for what it has earned, and they will not be wronged. (Quran 45:22)
And to Allah belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth - that He may recompense those who do evil with [the penalty of] what they have done and recompense those who do good with what is best. (Quran 53:31)
Although Allah's continuous creation is perceived by people as a mechanical order that occurs spontaneously, in reality, these are still direct creations of our Lord:
Is He [not best] who begins creation and then repeats it and who provides for you from the heaven and earth? Is there a deity with Allah? Say, "Produce your proof, if you should be truthful." (Quran 27:64)
Have they not seen how Allah begins creation and then repeats it? Indeed, that, for Allah, is easy. (Quran 29:19)
They denied [the truth] and followed their [own] inclinations. But for every matter is a [decreed] time. (Quran 54:3)
But at the same time, our Lord shows with examples that these are not spontaneous or unchangeable orders, that He can create them in different ways if He wills, that He can even change the laws He has set, and that these orders came into existence later.
For example, He presents evidence that He does not need a mother + father = birth, i.e., sexuality, to create:
Indeed, the example of Jesus with Allah is like the example of Adam. He created him from dust; then He said to him, "Be," and he was. (Quran 3:59) (Jesus was also created without sexuality, one did not have a father, while the other did not have both a mother and a father; their situations are similar.)
Another example of direct (fatherless) creation:
[The Day] when Allah will say, "O Jesus, Son of Mary, remember My favor upon you and upon your mother when I supported you with the Holy Spirit and [when] you spoke to the people in the cradle and in maturity; and [remember] when I taught you writing and wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel; and when you designed from clay [what seemed] like the form of a bird with My permission, then you breathed into it, and it became a bird with My permission; and you healed the blind and the leper with My permission; and when you brought forth the dead with My permission; and when I restrained the Children of Israel from [killing] you when you came to them with clear proofs, and those who disbelieved among them said, "This is not but obvious magic." (Quran 5:110)
Apart from this, verses stating that people will be directly created from the earth in the afterlife and that the universe was created from nothing also beautifully describe this situation.
Greetings and love
Emre Karaköse
The message intended in the verse is clear. If we can do something in this life, or if something happens, there is a reason for it. If the thing that enables it is removed, that action or occurrence will also cease.
Today, even if ships move with solar energy, nothing changes. This time, if the sun's light is stopped and doesn't reach our world, our ship will remain motionless.
Or, if the ship moves with oars, this time, if the physical laws that enable movement in this way are removed, the ship will remain immobile.
Of course, what is described here applies to every area of life. Or, if one of the elements necessary for the continuation of life is removed, life will also cease on our planet. If the physical laws that allow an airplane or a bird to stay in the air are removed, they cannot fly.
Have they not seen the birds controlled in the atmosphere of the sky? None holds them [aloft] except Allah. Indeed in that are signs for a people who believe. (Quran 16:79)
In short, the "sailing ships" in Surah Ash-Shura represent both "sailing ships," "all other technological vehicles," and "all the tasks we accomplish or that occur" in our lives.
By giving a small part of the whole, that whole is brought to mind.
Yasin
And We have created for them similar to it [ships] that they ride. (Quran 36:42)
Everything we think we do ourselves or that happens spontaneously actually happens through the order created by Allah and/or other things He has created. Or, in other words, our Lord directly accomplishes and creates these things.
Surah Al-Waqi'ah:
And you have already known the first creation, so will you not remember? (Quran 56:62)
Have you seen that [seed] which you sow? (Quran 56:63)
Is it you who makes it grow, or are We the grower? (Quran 56:64)
If We willed, We could have made it [dry] debris, and you would have remained in astonishment, (Quran 56:65)
[Saying], "Indeed, we are losers; (Quran 56:66)
Rather, we have been deprived." (Quran 56:67)
Have you seen the water that you drink? (Quran 56:68)
Is it you who brought it down from the clouds, or is it We who bring it down? (Quran 56:69)
If We willed, We could have made it bitter, so why are you not grateful? (Quran 56:70)
Have you seen the fire that you ignite? (Quran 56:71)
Is it you who produced its tree, or are We the producer? (Quran 56:72)
We have made it a reminder and a provision for the travelers. (Quran 56:73)
So exalt the name of your Lord, the Most Great. (Quran 56:74)
Then I swear by the places of the stars - (Quran 56:75)
And indeed, it is a great oath, if you only knew - (Quran 56:76)
Another similar example to ships becoming motionless is given for humans in Surah Al-Baqarah:
The lightning almost snatches away their sight. Every time it lights [the way] for them, they walk therein; but when darkness comes over them, they stand [still]. And if Allah had willed, He could have taken away their hearing and their sight. Indeed, Allah is over all things competent. (Quran 2:20)
O mankind, worship your Lord, who created you and those before you, that you may become righteous - (Quran 2:21)
[He] who has made for you the earth a bed [to lie on] and the sky a ceiling and sent down from the sky rain and brought forth thereby fruits as provision for you. So do not attribute to Allah equals while you know [that there is no god but Him]. (Quran 2:22)
We can realize what is called science and technology thanks to the physical laws that Allah has established and the reason and knowledge He has given us.
In short, all blessings, whether natural or technological, are the work of Allah. Past, present, and future...
And [He created] the horses, mules and donkeys for you to ride and [as] adornment. And He creates that which you do not know. (Quran 16:
And Allah has made for you from that which He has created shadows and has made for you from the mountains shelters and has made for you garments that protect you from the heat and garments that protect you from your [enemy in] battle. Thus does He complete His favor upon you that you might submit [to Him]. (Quran 16:81)
In fact, it was already programmed in our destiny what people would discover and use and when.
Actually, all of this is again for us to confront ourselves in this short 2-day test life, to see what we deserve in the hereafter, and to taste some small rewards or punishments in this world:
And Allah created the heavens and the earth in truth and that every soul may be recompensed for what it has earned, and they will not be wronged. (Quran 45:22)
And to Allah belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth - that He may recompense those who do evil with [the penalty of] what they have done and recompense those who do good with what is best. (Quran 53:31)
Although Allah's continuous creation is perceived by people as a mechanical order that occurs spontaneously, in reality, these are still direct creations of our Lord:
Is He [not best] who begins creation and then repeats it and who provides for you from the heaven and earth? Is there a deity with Allah? Say, "Produce your proof, if you should be truthful." (Quran 27:64)
Have they not seen how Allah begins creation and then repeats it? Indeed, that, for Allah, is easy. (Quran 29:19)
They denied [the truth] and followed their [own] inclinations. But for every matter is a [decreed] time. (Quran 54:3)
But at the same time, our Lord shows with examples that these are not spontaneous or unchangeable orders, that He can create them in different ways if He wills, that He can even change the laws He has set, and that these orders came into existence later.
For example, He presents evidence that He does not need a mother + father = birth, i.e., sexuality, to create:
Indeed, the example of Jesus with Allah is like the example of Adam. He created him from dust; then He said to him, "Be," and he was. (Quran 3:59) (Jesus was also created without sexuality, one did not have a father, while the other did not have both a mother and a father; their situations are similar.)
Another example of direct (fatherless) creation:
[The Day] when Allah will say, "O Jesus, Son of Mary, remember My favor upon you and upon your mother when I supported you with the Holy Spirit and [when] you spoke to the people in the cradle and in maturity; and [remember] when I taught you writing and wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel; and when you designed from clay [what seemed] like the form of a bird with My permission, then you breathed into it, and it became a bird with My permission; and you healed the blind and the leper with My permission; and when you brought forth the dead with My permission; and when I restrained the Children of Israel from [killing] you when you came to them with clear proofs, and those who disbelieved among them said, "This is not but obvious magic." (Quran 5:110)
Apart from this, verses stating that people will be directly created from the earth in the afterlife and that the universe was created from nothing also beautifully describe this situation.
Greetings and love
Emre Karaköse
#7
General Issues / Questions / Re: The false narrative : Chan...
Last post by good logic - March 15, 2025, 05:55:04 PMPeace Hawk.
Sometimes "Kitab" means a written/record . i.e everything is recorded at GOD s.
These verses give us this context for example:
Those who received the scripture rejoice in what was revealed to you; some others may reject parts of it. Say, "I am simply enjoined to Ubud God, and never associate any idols with Him. I invite to Him, and to Him is my ultimate destiny."
وَالَّذينَ ءاتَينٰهُمُ الكِتٰبَ يَفرَحونَ بِما أُنزِلَ إِلَيكَ وَمِنَ الأَحزابِ مَن يُنكِرُ بَعضَهُ قُل إِنَّما أُمِرتُ أَن أَعبُدَ اللَّهَ وَلا أُشرِكَ بِهِ إِلَيهِ أَدعوا وَإِلَيهِ مَـٔابِ
We revealed these laws in Arabic, and if you ever acquiesce to their wishes, after this knowledge has come to you, you will have no ally, nor a protector, against God.
وَكَذٰلِكَ أَنزَلنٰهُ حُكمًا عَرَبِيًّا وَلَئِنِ اتَّبَعتَ أَهواءَهُم بَعدَما جاءَكَ مِنَ العِلمِ ما لَكَ مِنَ اللَّهِ مِن وَلِىٍّ وَلا واقٍ
We have sent messengers before you, and we made them husbands with wives and children. No messenger can produce an Ayaat without God's authorization, and in accordance with a specific, predetermined time/period(already recorded at GOD).
وَلَقَد أَرسَلنا رُسُلًا مِن قَبلِكَ وَجَعَلنا لَهُم أَزوٰجًا وَذُرِّيَّةً وَما كانَ لِرَسولٍ أَن يَأتِىَ بِـٔايَةٍ إِلّا بِإِذنِ اللَّهِ لِكُلِّ أَجَلٍ كِتابٌ
God erases whatever He wills, and fixes. With Him is the original Master Record(about everything that happens).i.e GOD s plan is already recorded.)
يَمحُوا اللَّهُ ما يَشاءُ وَيُثبِتُ وَعِندَهُ أُمُّ الكِتٰبِ
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Sometimes "Kitab" means a written/record . i.e everything is recorded at GOD s.
These verses give us this context for example:
Those who received the scripture rejoice in what was revealed to you; some others may reject parts of it. Say, "I am simply enjoined to Ubud God, and never associate any idols with Him. I invite to Him, and to Him is my ultimate destiny."
وَالَّذينَ ءاتَينٰهُمُ الكِتٰبَ يَفرَحونَ بِما أُنزِلَ إِلَيكَ وَمِنَ الأَحزابِ مَن يُنكِرُ بَعضَهُ قُل إِنَّما أُمِرتُ أَن أَعبُدَ اللَّهَ وَلا أُشرِكَ بِهِ إِلَيهِ أَدعوا وَإِلَيهِ مَـٔابِ
We revealed these laws in Arabic, and if you ever acquiesce to their wishes, after this knowledge has come to you, you will have no ally, nor a protector, against God.
وَكَذٰلِكَ أَنزَلنٰهُ حُكمًا عَرَبِيًّا وَلَئِنِ اتَّبَعتَ أَهواءَهُم بَعدَما جاءَكَ مِنَ العِلمِ ما لَكَ مِنَ اللَّهِ مِن وَلِىٍّ وَلا واقٍ
We have sent messengers before you, and we made them husbands with wives and children. No messenger can produce an Ayaat without God's authorization, and in accordance with a specific, predetermined time/period(already recorded at GOD).
وَلَقَد أَرسَلنا رُسُلًا مِن قَبلِكَ وَجَعَلنا لَهُم أَزوٰجًا وَذُرِّيَّةً وَما كانَ لِرَسولٍ أَن يَأتِىَ بِـٔايَةٍ إِلّا بِإِذنِ اللَّهِ لِكُلِّ أَجَلٍ كِتابٌ
God erases whatever He wills, and fixes. With Him is the original Master Record(about everything that happens).i.e GOD s plan is already recorded.)
يَمحُوا اللَّهُ ما يَشاءُ وَيُثبِتُ وَعِندَهُ أُمُّ الكِتٰبِ
GOD bless you.
Peace.
#8
Prophets and Messengers / Re: Muhammad as the last messe...
Last post by good logic - March 15, 2025, 05:35:55 PMPeace Rauf.
Surah Anbya confirms Noah as a Nabi and many others .
But I do not see for example Hud , Salih or Shuaib confirmed as Nabi in any verses of Qoran, do you? Only as Rasouls:
To `Ãd we sent their brother Hûd. He said, "O my people, worship God; you have no other god beside Him. Would you then observe righteousness?"
وَإِلىٰ عادٍ أَخاهُم هودًا قالَ يٰقَومِ اعبُدُوا اللَّهَ ما لَكُم مِن إِلٰهٍ غَيرُهُ أَفَلا تَتَّقونَ
The leaders who disbelieved among his people said, "We see that you are behaving foolishly, and we think that you are a liar."
قالَ المَلَأُ الَّذينَ كَفَروا مِن قَومِهِ إِنّا لَنَرىٰكَ فى سَفٰهَةٍ وَإِنّا لَنَظُنُّكَ مِنَ الكٰذِبينَ
He said, "O my people, there is no foolishness in me; I am a messenger from the Lord of the universe.
قالَ يٰقَومِ لَيسَ بى سَفٰهَةٌ وَلٰكِنّى رَسولٌ مِن رَبِّ العٰلَمينَ
If you know of any verses that state Hud or Salih or Shuaib as Nabi please bring them.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
Surah Anbya confirms Noah as a Nabi and many others .
But I do not see for example Hud , Salih or Shuaib confirmed as Nabi in any verses of Qoran, do you? Only as Rasouls:
To `Ãd we sent their brother Hûd. He said, "O my people, worship God; you have no other god beside Him. Would you then observe righteousness?"
وَإِلىٰ عادٍ أَخاهُم هودًا قالَ يٰقَومِ اعبُدُوا اللَّهَ ما لَكُم مِن إِلٰهٍ غَيرُهُ أَفَلا تَتَّقونَ
The leaders who disbelieved among his people said, "We see that you are behaving foolishly, and we think that you are a liar."
قالَ المَلَأُ الَّذينَ كَفَروا مِن قَومِهِ إِنّا لَنَرىٰكَ فى سَفٰهَةٍ وَإِنّا لَنَظُنُّكَ مِنَ الكٰذِبينَ
He said, "O my people, there is no foolishness in me; I am a messenger from the Lord of the universe.
قالَ يٰقَومِ لَيسَ بى سَفٰهَةٌ وَلٰكِنّى رَسولٌ مِن رَبِّ العٰلَمينَ
If you know of any verses that state Hud or Salih or Shuaib as Nabi please bring them.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
#9
Questions/Comments on the Quran / Re: Viewing things in the righ...
Last post by Mazhar - March 15, 2025, 01:07:46 PMQuote from: amin on March 15, 2025, 12:15:24 PMThanks for your comments, I understand.
My question is, does this verse about going to war, and asking the leader not to hesitate doing it?
The word 'fight' is the one we see in the common translations.
But how we fight in the name of Allah, is it fighting just by saying the word Allah or fighting for spreading the Religion?
my main point in taking this verse, for getting the deeper meaning of the name Allah, fighting in the name of Allah should be a fight thats done for an issue hurting the community or an injustice, that is the common goodness.
This Ayah is the last sentence of Paragraph comprising of Ayahs 71-84. Every segment is to be read coherently.
Verb is Form-III.
My translation.
فَقَٟتِلْ فِـى سَبِيلِ ٱللَّهِ لَا تُكَلَّفُ إِلَّا نَفْسَكَۚ وَحَرِّضِ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِيـنَۖ عَسَى ٱللَّهُ أَن يَكُفَّ بَأْسَ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَـرُوا۟ۚ وَٱللَّهُ أَشَدُّ بَأْسٙا وَأَشَدُّ تَنكِيلٙا ٨٤
[reverting to matter in 4:77]Thereby, you the Messenger [Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam] confront the war for the cause of Allah the Exalted whenever imposed. You are not burdened and made responsible for anyone except your self —However, urge upon the believers to participate in the imposed war. There is hope for you that Allah the Exalted will restrain the combat power of those who have refused to accept. People should know it; Allah the Exalted is the Mightiest with regard to causing calamitous events; and super powerful in restraining people. [4:84]
#10
Questions/Comments on the Quran / Re: Viewing things in the righ...
Last post by amin - March 15, 2025, 12:15:24 PMThanks for your comments, I understand.
My question is, does this verse about going to war, and asking the leader not to hesitate doing it?
The word 'fight' is the one we see in the common translations.
But how we fight in the name of Allah, is it fighting just by saying the word Allah or fighting for spreading the Religion?
my main point in taking this verse, for getting the deeper meaning of the name Allah, fighting in the name of Allah should be a fight thats done for an issue hurting the community or an injustice, that is the common goodness.
My question is, does this verse about going to war, and asking the leader not to hesitate doing it?
The word 'fight' is the one we see in the common translations.
But how we fight in the name of Allah, is it fighting just by saying the word Allah or fighting for spreading the Religion?
my main point in taking this verse, for getting the deeper meaning of the name Allah, fighting in the name of Allah should be a fight thats done for an issue hurting the community or an injustice, that is the common goodness.