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Submitters / Code 19 / Re: Terms & Conditions of The Covenant

« on: January 03, 2014, 11:42:16 PM »

How can they perform thousand years before Rashad Khalifa was born, and when the covenant are asking them to "support" and to "believe" . .  "Rashad Khalifa's confirmations", ie. specific person. This is crazy ! 

What is crazy is you expecting the prophets to be alive to support RS when they were already dead.
The prophets supported RS by doing their jobs.

If Muhammad had not compiled the Quran there would be NO CODE for RS to find to further prove the divinity of the scripture If the prophets didn't write their scripture there would be no scripture to holistically show the consolidation of the message.

They supported a messenger that had not exist in there own time. What is crazy about that??

How is that different from God asking Muhammad to compile the Quran to support the believers during his time and hundreds of years in the future???

Brother it is you who needs to take the time to think.

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Submitters / Code 19 / Re: Terms & Conditions of The Covenant

« on: January 03, 2014, 11:29:03 PM »

So that is your prove that the DEAD PROPHETS are believing, supporting and be subjected to Khalifa's confirmations ? 

No, it is not the prove that the DEAD PROPHETS are believing, supporting and be subjected to Khalifa's confirmations . .

They are dead, thousand years ago before Rashad Khalifa.

That's merely a prove for the covenant, not the "performance of the covenant"

I'm asking proof for the "performance of the covenant"

How?

The scripture that Muhammad delivered and the prophets of old is the performance like I told already. READ MY POSTS.


For example when Muhammad delivered the Quran and followed all the instructions of the compilation of it he fulfilled the covenant.
Without a Quran there is no Quran-code!

When the prophets finished there scriptures RS purified it ...simplified it into one consolidating message.

The prophets supported RS by simply doing there jobs as messengers.

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Submitters / Code 19 / Re: Terms & Conditions of The Covenant

« on: January 03, 2014, 11:15:12 PM »

33:7 When We took from the prophets their covenant. From YOU, and from Noah, and Abraham, and Moses, and Jesus the son of Mary; We took from them a strong covenant.

Who is YOU??? Is this  not Muhammad? Doesn't this show that covenant was taken while they were still alive??? JUST LIKE I WAS SAYING ALL ALONG??

I have answered your questions many times. Just admit that you were wrong.

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Submitters / Code 19 / Re: Terms & Conditions of The Covenant

« on: January 03, 2014, 11:06:56 PM »

It is pointless for me to repeat, read again my answer.

Show it to me again. I have read your post a thousand times and I have read the Quran many times. No where do I see that the we followers of GOD made a covenant.

You are lying. Admit your guilt and save yourself from sin. Stop being arrogant.

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Submitters / Code 19 / Re: Terms & Conditions of The Covenant

« on: January 03, 2014, 11:03:19 PM »

If you want to believe the objective and purpose of the covenant to make the dead Prophets bound and subjected to Khalifa's confirmation . . . then I have no objection and it is your logic. 

However, my logic tells me that the objective and purpose of the covenant is to make the Prophet's followers . . ie. follower of earlier revelations and the followers of the Quran to be bound by this Covenant.

Show it to me where in the Quran that it says clearly that WE THE FOLLOWERS made a covenant. If you cannot show this to me then ask God for forgiveness and admit on this forum that you were wrong if you are indeed a godly person that fears God and do not say things that God never said

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Submitters / Code 19 / Re: Terms & Conditions of The Covenant

« on: January 03, 2014, 10:52:30 PM »

Then you should named Rashad Khalifa as the "MESSENGER OF NO COVENANT"  . . ie. fake messenger !

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Purpose of the Covenant . . .

Do you really expect the purpose of the covenant to make the dead Prophets bound and subjected to Khalifa's confirmation? 

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I'm not going to repeat my answer relating to the source of his Messengership, read again.

The covenant was made when EACH of the prophets were alive o_O Stop fooling yourself when you know the truth.

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Submitters / Code 19 / Re: Terms & Conditions of The Covenant

« on: January 03, 2014, 10:49:39 PM »

The you should name Rashad Khalifa as the "MESSENGER OF NO COVENANT"   

The covenant was made by THE PROPHETS. Show me where does it say that the WE made a covenant??  Did you make make a covenant to support RS?? Did God appear to you in some vision and told you support RS?? Is it mentioned in the Quran that you should make a covenant??
Didn't Quran clearly show that it was the PROPHETS that made this covenant??

Stop wasting your precious time on RS footnotes. RS was STILL LEARNING the Quran. It is stupid and complete idol worship to believe that God made it SOOOOO easy and gave RS the correct interpretation for everything and every verse in the Quran. Stop being lazy and study.  Rashad was not like you and he would have told you what I am telling you now. Stop your idol worship and READ! I am NOT BEST MESSENGER and I AM NOT ALWAYS CORRECT.  Do not make distinctions among the messengers. He would have said that!

How many times did Rashad correct himself when he learnt something new?? Are you not doing the opposite of what Rashad would have done??

Peace,

Kevin

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Submitters / Code 19 / Re: Terms & Conditions of The Covenant

« on: January 03, 2014, 10:39:55 PM »

I see . . you are the blind followers . . .

and you don't even understand the meaning of the Messenger of "Covenant"

Please read and understand the "TERMS & CONDITIONS" of your agreement (covenant) in the first post. .

http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606119.msg345090#msg345090

Facts: Verse 3.81		Function		Terms & Conditions
God took a covenant from the prophets, saying		The Covenant		Parties: Allah, Prophets & Followers
"I will give you the scripture and wisdom		The Consideration
Afterwards, a messenger will come		The Conditions		Rashad Khalifa is the Messenger
to confirm all existing scriptures		- to confirm		To confirm facts
You shall believe in him		- to believe		Shall believe his confirmation
and support him."		- to support		Shall support his confirmation
He said, "Do you agree with this		The Offer
and pledge to fulfill this covenant?"
They said, "We agree."		The Acceptance		They agree and entered into an agreement
He said, "You have thus borne witness
and I bear witness along with you"		The Witnessing		Allah's is their witness

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Contract/Agreement/Covenant = Offer + Acceptance + Consideration

I am not a blind follower. It is rather you are a blind idol worshiper. I know that RS was indeed a messenger. But I don't put him up on pedestal like a hadither does. This covenant was made by the prophets NOT YOU and not us. We are not the ones that were asked to support RS but it was the prophets through there scripture. You don't know what you are reading. You are committing idol worship and you don't even know.

Peace,

Kevin

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Submitters / Code 19 / Re: The Agreement: Rashad Khalifa was the Last Messenger

« on: January 03, 2014, 10:35:17 PM »

Rashad Khalifa shall answer to God about the Quran, and therefore was the Last Messenger

Where does it say in the Quran that RS is the last Messenger?? You are merely guessing.
As the Quran says conjecture is not substitute for the truth. You are idol worshipping RS. You are saying things that you have no proof for.

Peace,

Kevin

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Submitters / Code 19 / Re: Terms & Conditions of The Covenant

« on: January 03, 2014, 10:28:02 PM »

I said . .

That is the objective of the covenant, and how can Muslims accept his Messengership if they are not subjected to the covenant to believe and support Rashad Khalifa?

Therefore he is supreme and all are subjected to his Messengership . . as the Last Messenger.

Does RS need our support?? Is he not dead?? Isn't what YOU are doing the exact same thing what hadithers do with Muhammad??
The Quran says follow Muhammad and listen to him. Hadithers use this to justify their adherence of the hadith and sunna when the Quran meant to listen and follow what the prophet said WHEN HE WAS ALIVE!!

 NOW YOU ARE SAYING WE SHOULD SUPPORT A DEAD MESSENGER. Can you not see the idol worship that you are doing??  Do you think Rashad's footnotes are perfect?? Didn't RS correct himself SEVERAL times when he was alive?? Was he not still LEARNING the Quran like us?? Why have you stopped your learning?? Can't you see that it was a clear test from God?? That God deliberately ended RS life to test the submitters to see whether or not they would continue there studies or blindly follow the writings of RS which he himself did not complete nor perfect???

Peace,
Kevin