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23:50 And We made the son of Mary and his mother a sign, and We gave them refuge on high ground, a place for resting and with a flowing stream.

In the above verse by "high ground, a place for resting and with a flowing stream."  does God mean  a particular location on earth or paradise?

Muhammad Asad's end note interpret this as paradise

Muhammad Asad - End Note 26 (23:50)
I.e., in paradise. The expression (ma'in) signifies "unsullied springs" or "running waters" (Ibn Abbas, as quoted by Tabari; also Lisan al-Arab and Taj al-'Arus), and thus symbolizes the spiritual purity associated with the concept of paradise, the "gardens through which running waters flow".


Sabbir Ahmed's translaton interpret as Can,aan where Jesus and his mother migrated after attempted crucifixion. Which means Jesus was still alive after crucifixion ?

23:50 And We made the son of Mary and his mother a symbol (of Our grace). We gave them abode on a land abounding in hills, affording rest and security and fresh water springs (as they migrated from Can'aan after the attempted crucifixion).


Ahmadiyya sect(A movement started by Mirza Gulam Ahmad of Qadian) interpret this as  Kashmir in india where Jesus migrated after surviving the crucifixion according

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bbU1aJiSl4


Also I came across some documentary which try to prove that Jesus might have migrated to Kashmir in india after surviving crucifixion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9w-xJfSOyc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YbUEZfJJaQ

Is is possible to have any trace of truth in the above documentaries or just attempt to rewrite history with conjectures?

Peace

Abdullah

Concept of Hinduism in short

http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/rs/god/hinduismrev1.shtml

Hinduism might has a monotheistic origin

Indraṃ mitraṃ varuṇamaghnimāhuratho divyaḥ sa suparṇo gharutmān,
ekaṃ sad viprā bahudhā vadantyaghniṃ yamaṃ mātariśvānamāhuḥ
"They call him Indra, Mitra, Varuṇa, Agni, and he is heavenly nobly-winged Garutmān.
To what is One, sages give many a title they call it Agni, Yama, Mātariśvan."(trans. Griffith)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_views_on_monotheism


" O friends, do not worship anybody but Him, the Divine One. Praise Him alone." [Rigveda 8:1:1]
"He is One only without a second." [Chandogya Upanishad 6:2:1]
"There is only one God, not the second; not at all, not at all, not in the least bit." [Brahma Sutra]

http://www.adishakti.org/_/concepts_which_are_common_among_muslims_christians_and_hindus.htm

http://www.irf.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=146&Itemid=129


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It shows a common trend. It might have started as a monotheistic system/ natural religion and got corrupted by the polytheistic ideas along the way .


Peace

Abdullah

Nice debate Brother Edip!!!

Wish to see more debates like this with traditional Muslim scholars like this guy ( Zakir Naik) who is justifying the barbaric practices of traditional islam based on hadith and sunnah  using ridiculous logic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRl5c-xPVA0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hzc_jhaWxw0

Peace

Abdullah