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#91
General Issues / Questions / Re: The Stoning of Soraya M
December 02, 2010, 08:43:59 AM
Quote from: Confused on October 08, 2010, 09:44:31 AM
Salam Wakas.

Thank you so much for this link. It helped calm me a bit. I've been against stoning all my life, but ever since I saw that movie I've been in shock. I just couldn't believe that my faith would sanction something horrible like that.

After I watched this movie I talked to a Muslim friend and he said that stoning is permitted in Islam. His rational was that adultery is a horrible sin and it is better to be punished for it here on earth rather than suffer for it in hell. He said that the prolonged and slow suffering that a person goes through during the stoning atones for their sins. I just don't buy it. If they must punish her, then they could just choose a quick and painless method of execution.

This upsets me very much. No matter how many websites cite how stoning and other horrendous sayings and practices encouraged by hadith are misconceptions, none of it matters when so many Muslims believe in them to be true and follow them. This makes them not misconceptions, but blatant truths to all who view Islam from the outside, especially Americans who are being trained by the media to view Muslims as bloodthirsty slavering savages. When I view Islam from a quran-only perspective, I get a view of a righteous people who strive for good and forbid what is wrong. But holding these beliefs makes me disgusting, and even deserving of death by many of my fellow traditional Muslims. It breaks my heart to see how successful shaitan has been in corrupting Allah's way with the hadith. Sometimes I feel like all is lost for traditional Islam on the whole, and that all I can do is silently endure on my own until death.
#92
Quote from: ayman on November 18, 2010, 12:09:07 AM
Peace CNB,

This is a myth. I have not seen a single passage that says that the great reading is easy to understand. There is a passage saying that the great reading was made easy for rememberance. This is quite different from understanding.

Peace,

Ayman

Peace Ayman,


In Surah 54. Al-Qamar (The Moon) (Yusuf Ali Translation)

It quotes the same passage 4 times:


17. And We have indeed made the Qur'an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?

22. But We have indeed made the Qur'an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?

32. And We have indeed made the Qur'an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?

40. And We have indeed made the Qur'an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition?

The context of these passages seem to be an admonition towards the Quraish and 4 examples were given of different peoples who were given warnings by God and rejected. So it seems it should still apply today, the Quran *Must be easy to understand AND remember if we are to understand the warnings and heed Gods commands.

I know no arabic but Al-Fatiha so I'm not in a place to perform exegesis on these 4 ayats, so could someone possibly help and explain? Can the phrase understand and remember be translated differently?  ???
#93
Quote from: Jack on November 11, 2010, 11:24:49 PM
Check out the links on this thread:

http://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9598319.msg201534#msg201534



Thank you for the links! After reading many of the articles on this site, as well as browsing through the forums, one thing has been bothering me.

Allah says his Quran is complete and he has made it easy to believe. Also that he does not wish for his way to be difficult, yet no one seems to agree or are able to really explain what is expected from believers. Some feel that they pray twice, and only read the Quran, while others believe it is 3 times a day and that physical prostration is important.

I wonder how much confusion is caused because we have preconceived notions caused by generations of assumptions of what islamic prayer and daily obligations should be as taught by Sunnis.

If the Quran is so easy to understand, why isn't it easy to understand? Are we over-complicating it?
#94
Quote from: Wakas on October 12, 2010, 07:00:40 AM
peace all,

For those recently joined members of this site, you may find interesting to note that majority of long-term members here regard it as a minimum of two daily regular/timed salat.



Friends, I must admit that I'm considered an apostate because as a white american texan male, i always felt very uncomfortable and out of place at the masjid and ended up falling away after 6 months of being muslim. However I starting thinking about how Islam seemed to be filled with so much extra manmade filler such as the jews have with their hedge-laws for everything.

I found this site and have been reading much about the miracle of 19 and i'm beginning to feel convicted in my heart for ignoring Allah. It makes sense to me that prayer is 3 times a day, but I can't find any information about how prayer is different from how the sunnis do it. Aside from how often you pray, *how* is the prayer performed? Is it just like mentioned and described on submitters.org ? I want to know how Allah wants me to pray!