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General Issues / Questions / Re: Earliest written Record??

« on: August 21, 2020, 01:05:15 AM »

@ wakas bro
salaam alaikum
just finished that book..from that book it seems that early muslims including the prophet were very barbaric and ruthless.

Also can u plz recommend 1 or 2 must book to read (from the site u mentioned) which provides a overall basic ideas on Quran,Hadith,History and early muslims etc .

thanx

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Earliest written Record??

« on: August 21, 2020, 12:52:12 AM »

Thanks a lot Wakas bhai,Khawaja bhai and Jafar bhai.

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Earliest written Record??

« on: August 20, 2020, 08:44:56 AM »

i mean any book(not Quran) on the subject of islam,muslim be it religious or historical,only criteria that it must be earliest n still be available or in fragments.i.e first in the game

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General Issues / Questions / Earliest written Record??

« on: August 19, 2020, 02:35:08 PM »

salaam alaikum,
what was the earliest written record/book on islam other than Quran??which is still available like the copy of Quran from the caliph Usman's time.

thanx

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General Issues / Questions / Re: The best arguments against authority of Hadith

« on: August 19, 2020, 01:06:06 PM »

yeahRight,If einstein's one statement is wrong then we can't say that Einstein's rest other statements are also wrong.
But in case of book of God,one statement is wrong,then it can't be book of God even the rest 99 statements r ultimate truth. same in the case of book which claims its 100% authentic sayings of the prophet.By definition,A prophet cant say a contradictory/wrong/false statement bcz whatever he is preaching in the name of religion he is getting it directly from God.. If there is even one proven contradictory statement in the Book claiming to be 100% authentic saying of prophet then Either the book is false or the prophet is fraud.

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General Issues / Questions / The best arguments against authority of Hadith

« on: August 19, 2020, 11:50:52 AM »

salaam all,
In my opinion the best argument against Hadith authenticity is that the MOST MOST MOST mutwattir(famous) hadith,the last khutba of Prophet Muhammad(s) has 3 different version.No other Hadith can be as famous as this was yet it has 3 different story.
so bro n sis, according to u what r other best logical arguments for rejecting hadiths.

thanx

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General Issues / Questions / Re: What went WRONG ???

« on: August 11, 2020, 11:36:56 AM »

salaam to all.

There was a time(9th to13th century) when Muslim world was the epitome of scientific advancement.After that WHAT WENT WRONG that till date we r the most backward in the field of science and technology??

My thought is that  man made version of Islam,was the primary reason for the downfall.

Any good book suggestion on this issue will be also very helpful.

thanx

Salaam Brother,
what was the point??

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General Issues / Questions / What went WRONG ???

« on: August 10, 2020, 01:36:51 PM »

salaam to all.

There was a time(9th to13th century) when Muslim world was the epitome of scientific advancement.After that WHAT WENT WRONG that till date we r the most backward in the field of science and technology??

My thought is that  man made version of Islam,was the primary reason for the downfall.

Any good book suggestion on this issue will be also very helpful.

thanx

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Mufti Abu Layth interviews Edip Yuksel

« on: July 09, 2020, 11:23:45 PM »

Mufti Abu layth ji is a very humble and liberal scholar. Wakas bro,u should make Quran oriented Youtube channel.

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Ourbeacon fourm: very undemocratic platform

« on: June 14, 2020, 10:46:32 AM »

Thanx for sharing ur thoughts n experinces. I agree with you all.