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#11
Here, i have made an illustration (alhamduillah):
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01 | 02 | 03 | 04 | 05 | 06 | 07
08 | 09 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14
15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21
22 |23 |24 |25 |26 |27 |28
----====[0 | 00]====----
that's 28 days, but wait, there's supposed to be one more every month, and two more every other month! don't count them and mark them off underneath (0 and 00).  then it will be the first crescent again, to start over at 01.

So that the first crescent is on 01, and the last crescent is on 28.
After the 28 is a new moon, and the days of the new moon are not counted on the grid but are separate as 0 and 00.
then, on the sighting of the first crescent, it starts over again at 01.

Between when the last crescent disappears and when the second first crescent is sighted, should not be more than two days.  they could be marked in any way, and need not be in the grid.  that makes it easier to make calendars esp in bulk as they can all have one symmetrical shape.
#12
General Issues / Questions / Re: "GOD" and Allahswt
July 08, 2024, 11:25:21 PM
first of all, i want to say, ALHAMDUILLAH, all strength is from the spirit, and we can tangibly experience how this governs our discussion as it is the government of all things. 
Quote from: jkhan on July 08, 2024, 07:48:03 PMPeace... Hey welcome...

What do you mean by The Spirit? Shall I take the dictionary meaning or do you have a specific definition for it.. pls enlighten me..
https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?msg=444468 <--like to post #3 above, where I defined the spirit as consciousness based on a thorough examination of the scriptures. also see post 6 above for further elaboration (https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?msg=444474).

Quoteafter explaining the above...

Pls translate the below verse for info

La Ilaha Illa Quawa
La Ilaha Illa Ana


Thank you brother/sister.. :laugh:
Did you want me to translate this to you, or from you?  Google brought me here: https://myislam.org/allahu-la-ilaha-illa-huwal-hayyul-qayyum/ where it is said to mean "Allah – there is no deity except Him, the Ever-Living, the Sustainer of all existence."  I feel that fits with my contributions from the above posts, that Allah is associated with life, and living, and existence -- as consciousness also is, and that is my definition of spirit from earlier in the thread. as for '-illa ana', from (https://surahquran.com/transliteration-aya-14-sora-20.html) indeed it is true, Allah is most high, and worship of anything else is wrong.  As I posted earlier, I could prove the worship of anything else is wrong when ALLAH (THE SPIRIT) is defined as consciousness.  To seek help from sources other than consciousness (knowledge, watchfulness, etc) will not always or even usually result in the best outcome, and less than the best outcome is not worthy of worship when the best outcome is available to all through ALLAH. 

thanks for reading
#13
first of all, please do not forget, ALHAMDUILLAH, there is no actual connection between solar days and lunar cycles.  that said...

Isn't it true that there is a discrepancy regarding how many days are in a month, that is, every other month has an extra day?

It should be beneficent then, to rest from counting to eliminate the difference.  That is, between the last visibility of the moon until the next visibility of the moon, these days are not part of either month.  They are neither counted with the numbering system the other days are counted with, nor are they charted in a grid with the other days on a calendar graph.  to the effect that the month is slightly shorter (as it does not count the time when the moon is not visible) as well as always the same -- no differentiation from one month to the next.

So if the moon goes invisible on july 5th, and remains invisible until july 7th, these two days are not counted on the lunar calendar, but are days of not counting, or sabbaths of counting.  A calendar so designed is always 28 days long every month -- what do you think?
#14
General Issues / Questions / Re: "GOD" and Allahswt
July 08, 2024, 07:23:56 PM
Quote from: Emre_1974tr on July 08, 2024, 07:09:05 PMOur video;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXA38GeVM6k

Two things to say to respond to this video:
1. Why is this a video?  If you just post the text it is more efficient to transmit and consume -- not to mention more accessible (to the disabled) and more compatible (to those on diverse computer systems).

and more on topic:

2. If you won't stop accusing me of New Age you will lose credibility -- I made no mention of these oddities like ET or psychic powers.  Obviously I am based on the scripture and on practical mundane reality and have not made so much as the slightest suggestion of the supernatural, magical, or superstitious.

I can't believe you linked me to that video.  How can you still think I am pushing a magic?  Are you OK?  Why can't you see my post is based on morality and not mysticism?  Look, I have defined SPIRIT as CONSCIOUSNESS according to ROBIL ALAMEEN -- how is that magic?
#15
Quote from: Wakas on March 19, 2024, 01:52:12 PMEstablish the salat at the setting of the sun to the darkness of the night; and the reading (of) dawn; indeed, the reading (of) dawn is witnessed. [17:78]
And from the night so remain awake with it additionally for yourself, perhaps your Lord will raise you (to) a status praiseworthy. [17:79]

The "with it" (Arabic: bi hi) refers to a preceding masculine noun, and thus can ONLY refer to "reading" (Arabic: quran). Note that "salat" is a feminine noun. Thus, the idea of "the tahajjud prayer" is not possible unless one considers it as a reading (also see 73:20).

As-salaam.

Pardon me.  I want to share with you, that as I read Ayat 78 I was under the impression it meant to read Qu'ran first thing in the morning, with the first light there is to read by.  As in the scenario where one is awake at night, praying Tahajjud.  Then at dawn, which would be the nearest practical opportunity to read Qu'ran, then they read Qu'ran.

So I read this as 'night-time related activities of the pious' which would include both tahajjud (prayers through the night) as well as a qu'ran reading at dawn.  That is, two separate activities.  This precludes your assertation that Tahajjud must be considered a 'reading' and is not a distinctly different activity from the reading.  Emphasis on the word "AND" in 17:78, it is not an "AS" or a "FOR" but a conjuction implying there are two things being prescribed: tahajjud and the reading at dawn as separate and distinct things commanded at the same time because they are related to the night-owl schedule.  What do you think?
#16
General Issues / Questions / Re: "GOD" and Allahswt
July 08, 2024, 06:19:05 PM
I'm sorry, I don't think I'm coming through clear.  I made no statement concerning heaven or hell or the afterlife, only what is ALLAH and how GOD is not an appropriate title.

It is true this is related to the word "SPIRIT" however, it is not true that I am referring to the spiritism you are apparently trying to accuse me of referring to.  In this way, it is like you're under the enchantment I describe previously, where I said the term GOD was not useful to convey a description of ALLAH because of a conditioning existing prior to the conversation.  Similarly, it seems like you're not understanding my use of the word SPIRIT due to a conditioning existing prior to the conversation!

When I said I have discerned the word SPIRIT is used in scripture to describe what is known as CONSCIOUSNESS in scientific terminology, let me elaborate.  This has nothing to do with the metaphysics you accuse me of (such as a "divine component").

CONSCIOUSNESS, in the medical sense of the term!  When one is passed out, they are UNCONSCIOUS, and when one is drunkened, their CONSCIOUSNESS is compromised!  When one is security guard who is carefully mindful of who and/or what they are guarding, they are CONSCIOUS of the status of who and/or what they guard!

THIS is what I meant by the use of the term SPIRIT, because in my research of the scripture I have found that is what is referred to when the term SPIRIT is used.  For example:

ROBIL ALLAH - Watchfulness is from the Spirit, as the watcher is CONCSIOUS of what they watch
AR-RAHEEM - The Spirit is most merciful, because CONSCIOUSNESS is sympathetic to other CONSCIOUSNESS
AR-RAHMAN - The Spirit is most beneficent, because CONSCIOUSNESS is required to design systems with technical efficiency.
MALIKI YAO-MIDEEN - Judgement is obviously a function of CONSCIOUSNESS and dependent on CONSCIOUSNESS
iyaka na budu wa iyaka nastaeen - One should never seek help from other than CONSCIOUSNESS, only CONSCIOUSNESS is worshipable
and so on.

However to resort to Biblical examples is also possible
for example:
I am THAT I AM - a reference to CONSCIOUSNESS in the form of "I am", the self-affirmation of a conscious being.  This should make sense in the context of the law that was introduced at the same time, as the law is designed to protect conscious beings.

Spirit of All the Living, or, Living Spirit - that is a reference to consciousness in the form of the word Living, as anything with consciousness in it is living.

For when Samuel was resurrected by the necromancress, and she was asked "what did you see?" and she said "A spirit rose up from the ground" it makes sense she refers to the CONSCIOUSNESS of the deceased, and the word in hebrew used for spirit is ELOH, phonetically similar to ALLAH, or The (AL) Spirit (LAH).

Enough examples now.

All living things have a consciousness, however ALLAH represents the greatness of all consciousnesses combined.  This was useful in the case of THAT I AM, to determine the best outcome for judicial cases in the establishment of the law.  To do what is best for consciousness (the most merciful thing to do) is obviously the outcome we should all want from a legal system.  The will of THAT I AM, then, is that what is best for everybody is what shall be done.  What is best for everybody is determined by the effect of the action on their consciousnesses, and who will suffer loss or pain, and who will enjoy gain or pleasure.  These have to be balanced in fairness (most beneficent) to the end that the least evil is manifest (most merciful)

so consciousness is at the root of morality, and morality is at the root of religion, and religion is at the root of scripture, and it is true then: consciousness is the root of scripture.  Therefore the interpretation of what is ALLAH is related to CONSCIOUSNESS, not THEOLOGY, DEISM, or other mystical deviations!
#17
General Issues / Questions / Re: "GOD" and Allahswt
July 08, 2024, 03:17:52 PM
Pardon me, I'm not sure I was clearly understood.

In the name of the Spirit, the most beneficent, the most merciful
All strength is from the Spirit, the watcher of the worlds
The most beneficent, the most merciful,
The master on the day of judgement.
Only it to we worship, and only it do we seek help from.
It keeps us on the straight path --
the path of those upon whom favor is bestowed
not of those who incur the wrath
or those who go astray.  Amen.
The Spirit is greatest
Watchfulness is from the Spirit.
The Spirit is most high.

The Spirit, what is this we are talking about when we say "ALLAH"? 
The watcher of the worlds, from ROBIL, as in ROBIL-ALLAH, is ever over all existences, governing each world as it sees fit, and governing the interactions between the worlds.
AL-JABAR, the perfect system of physics (therefore, the master on the day of judgement, and the most beneficent)
And for full greatness we include morality in the physics, because AL-JABAR is not complete without morality, and morality is not complete without mercy.  From thence we have AR-RAHEEM.
There is not a better source of help, and so there is nothing else more worthy of worship besides ALLAH.
This is the straight path, a path that is not abominatory or strange, and other than it there is no better path.   

Here you can see I indeed have the same ALLAH as every Muslim does and ever has had, however, I disagree with the use of the word "GOD" because it was personally very confusing to me.  In coming from a background like USA where "GOD" is actually the pagan term used for Zeus, all references to GOD including christian sunday school all provoke paganism-based mental images of deism.

ALLAH is greater than all of the gods, if they were to really exist, because they would only be able to effect the world or interact with each other under the moderation of ALLAH -- subject to its supremacy of beneficence and mercy.  So ALLAH rules with beneficence and mercy regardless of if there are gods or not.  So paganism is irrelevant to the topic.

Therefore, you see, GOD is the pagan term, and SPIRIT is more scriptural -- in my research, I have found it to be a word used in ancient times to describe consciousness, and the ultimate spirit, ALLAH, is the spirit of all consciousnesses (or, as is commonly known to be written, "the spirit of all the living").
#18
Introduce Yourself / that i am
July 08, 2024, 04:18:27 AM
salam
I showed up from wikisource trying to download your freemind's Qu'ran.  Actually I remember your forum from in 2009 or so when I was doing research on Qu'ran and used tools from your website.  At any rate, I am here to post the thread I posted in General Discussion regarding your use of the word "God" as well as to invite you all to my webpage: http://thatiam.neocities.org

The reason I want to invite you to my page is because I believe you may appreciate it.  In Exodus 3 there is an exchange between Moses and Allah where Allah introduces itself as THAT I AM, and I believe this is important for every study of all derivative works including the Qu'ran.  If you view my web-page it will explain further.

This post and my other is for the spreading of knowledge with no other intention besides to share results of study in the fashion of the scientific discipline.  It is my sole purpose to be productive towards the publication of truth.  Thank you for reading.

Yours truly
rsw
#19
General Issues / Questions / "GOD" and Allahswt
July 08, 2024, 04:10:28 AM
I saw your modern translation of Qu'ran.  It is my recommendation that you cease to use this term "god" because of it's pagan connotations.  Allah (the spirit) is greater than a god in that any god and all gods are submitted to Allah.  Therefore it is incorrect to call Allah the god.  Worse, it is confusing, because people who have cultural backgrounds which indoctrinate them into a certain understanding of what a god is will have FALSE PRECONCEPTIONS regarding Allah!  Then they can read Qu'ran and not understand Qu'ran because you used what is like a CYBERSQUATTED word to describe Allah!

It is my opinion, shahada is interpretable in this way:
There is no god, yet there is the spirit.
As in, the idea there is a god is incorrect, however, what was meant by god is supreme being.  The Spirit, being the supreme being, is what there is in place of the God.  Therefore there is no god, yet there is Allah.  Alhamduillah.