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Questions/Comments on the Quran / Verses 2.143- 145
« on: July 08, 2020, 02:22:13 PM »
Salam,

How do you understand those verses ?
 ( I quoted sahih international translation, I checked other translations, and found the same meanings ( more or less) and took them into consideration)
2.143
Sahih International: And thus we have made you a just community that you will be witnesses over the people and the Messenger will be a witness over you. And We did not make the qiblah which you used to face except that We might make evident who would follow the Messenger from who would turn back on his heels. And indeed, it is difficult except for those whom Allah has guided. And never would Allah have caused you to lose your faith. Indeed Allah is, to the people, Kind and Merciful.

Did Allah change the qiblah ( direction ?) ?

2.144
Sahih International: We have certainly seen the turning of your face, [O Muhammad], toward the heaven, and We will surely turn you to a qiblah with which you will be pleased. So turn your face toward al-Masjid al-haram. And wherever you [believers] are, turn your faces toward it [in prayer]. Indeed, those who have been given the Scripture well know that it is the truth from their Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what they do.

And chose a qiblah tnat pleased the messenger ?

2.145
Sahih International: And if you brought to those who were given the Scripture every sign, they would not follow your qiblah. Nor will you be a follower of their qiblah. Nor would they be followers of one another's qiblah. So if you were to follow their desires after what has come to you of knowledge, indeed, you would then be among the wrongdoers.

2.146
Sahih International: Those to whom We gave the Scripture know him as they know their own sons. But indeed, a party of them conceal the truth while they know [it]

Those who have been given the scripture knew the truth refused to follow Muhammad's qiblah and have several qiblah.
So they knew the truth from their Book and refused to follow the messenger's qiblah ( that has changed (?)) and some of them concealed the truth.
If  we consider that the qiblah has changed ( understood this after reading several translations into French), this is different from what they have in their Book ( and they knew the truth from it)... I am quite confused 


There is one Qiblah that everyone should follow, and it is a physical direction here (understanding).

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General Issues / Questions / Concerns
« on: June 05, 2020, 07:30:02 AM »
Peace to everyone,

I know that some people can be anxious about certain things.
I am anxious about the idea to set up partners with God, maybe of lack of understanding about what this all encompasses.
Some times I can have concerns (maybe unjustified worries like something that ressembles "paranoia") like this though : Is using antivirus software making in some way partner with Allah ? I know that it is used to detect computer viruses, prevent a dangerous/infected web page from being displayed  etc... And I tell myself  to be reassured "it's like shield and sword used in war".

Maybe you will find that question crazy, but when someone fear something so much, the can raise distressing thoughts or questions.

If I decided (and I hesitated) to share this here, is to have your opinion (as believer).

And if the administrator of this forum wants, this thread can be used to talk about concerns in general (linked to Islam).

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Introduce Yourself / Hello from France
« on: April 29, 2020, 03:58:06 AM »
Salam everybody,

(English is not my mother tongue so I can make mistakes, even I studied it several years ago but never been to an English speaking country).
I'm happy to be able to post. I tried to register 5 months ago but never received the activation code,I even tried with several e mail adress. So i decided to follow some topics waiting one day if i can connect here. I never retried from 4 months ago, until today and i'm here  :).
It worked without having received and used an activation, I wonder why. Maybe there are some technical problems in this website (and some articles can't be found).
I hope to be able to reconnect other days in order to communicate with you inch Allah.

I consider myself as a muslim because I accepted to submit to Allah, I think that I have a lot to learn. I experienced different states of belief or disbelief.
I grow up in a family which follow what they have been taught i.e transmission by family and scholars : a mix with culture (marroco) and "traditional islam". They trusted/trust because enable to read.
I followed what has been taught to me without asking questions, following some hadiths, traditions and quran based "instructions" a kind of mix but never made research. But one day, someone showed some violent verses from al quran (translations), and i discovered some violent hadiths and the behaviour of some muslims ( violence, terrorism, punishments, lack of patience, hostility...). I was lost and stayed some years fearing Islam.
And I tried to come back to islam but still been more or less disturbed. The day I discovered that some translations are false (admitted  either but some "sunni" muslims and the muslims who base their belief on  Al quran alone), that adiths form the books of muslim and bukhari (I wonder if those are their true names) are questionable I was hopeful.
Now, I try to anderstand Allah's messages, trying to following them. I'm trying to know the truth but it isn't easy, there are diiferent religious movements in Islam, how sad...
I just fear to wrong myself, hope that the god will guide me if he wants. I can't understand classic arabic just some words, i can read them with harakates ( recently learned).
Some observations, notes, points here seem very relevant to me. Thank you for having shared your research, reflections and opinions  :) There are useful.


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