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General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadhan 2:185
« on: May 16, 2017, 07:49:38 AM »
Salam Submitter.
I am not talking about full moon as being starting of ramadhan.

Pls reread my post.

I am talking about witnessing of full moon as doing your fast the next ONE day only and doing it every month whenever you witness a full moon ie for the next 12 months.

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadhan 2:185
« on: May 16, 2017, 04:35:43 AM »
In that words 2:185:17 falyasum'hu    'then he should fast' is 3rd person singular.... meaning the person witnessing the full moon should fast the next day only....

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadhan 2:185
« on: May 16, 2017, 04:09:06 AM »
Salam brother Farati n all.

Once again, here I am talking about sighting or witnessing of Full Moon.....
If you witness Full Moon then you should fast.


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General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadhan 2:185
« on: May 15, 2017, 10:15:18 PM »
Thank Clash,

but i am not referring to new moon here, I am referring to full moon, and only that one day.

So 12 days total in a year fasting.

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadhan 2:185
« on: May 15, 2017, 09:53:21 PM »
Brook,

Could period here is referring to a lunar year?

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadhan 2:185
« on: May 15, 2017, 09:37:22 PM »
Thanks Brook,

Noted,....

The 12's are my count and not from the Quran,.... so mistakes are mind,... thanks for pointing that out.

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General Issues / Questions / Ramadhan 2:185
« on: May 15, 2017, 07:58:49 PM »

Salam all,


In Sura 2: 185 the verse is talking about Ramadhan, and since the month of Ramadhan is coming just around the corner, I thought of giving my 2 cents understanding of this verse. Much have said and argued about this verse, below is my understanding and I post it here to get your critic and feedback.

The translations from Shahih are as follows:
Sahih International: The month of Ramadhan [is that] in which was revealed the Qur'an, a guidance for the people and clear proofs of guidance and criterion. So whoever sights [the new moon of] the month, let him fast it; and whoever is ill or on a journey - then an equal number of other days. Allah intends for you ease and does not intend for you hardship and [wants] for you to complete the period and to glorify Allah for that [to] which He has guided you; and perhaps you will be grateful.

In fact, most translations translate it as ?The month of Ramadhan?.?

Shahar can both means month or moon.

 And ramadhan can also mean ?intensely hot?.

Am I correct on this? ( I am not from Arabic background, sorry If I am wrong)

So the unconventional translations could also be ?The moon of ramadhan or Intensely hot moon?..?. If we look from astronomy, the meaning of intensely hot moon occurs when it is directly lighted (heated) by the sun and when viewed from earth it is during Full Moon.
So I would translate this to mean ? The moon of Ramadhan? ? as

?The full moon in which was revealed the Quran, a guidance for the people and clear proofs of guidance and criterion. So whoever sights the moon (full moon), let him fast it (ie the next day); and whoever is ill or on a journey ? the an equal number of other days. Allah intends for you ease and does not intend for you hardship and {wants} for you to complete the period (count)  and to glorify Allah for that {to} which He has guided you; and perhaps you will be grateful.?

From these translations my understanding would be when we sight the full moon we should fast the next day and to complete the period (count) means to complete the count of the moon/month which is 12 days in a year (12 full moon and 12 days fasting in a year).

Well, this is my post and understanding, which I hope to get some comments from you. I am a newbie here so be gentle  :)   and give some slacks If I am wrong on this.

Thank you.

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Salam Rana...
Sorry my bad it should be 1:5 and 5:6.
Thank you.

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Salam all,

Quran does not 'teach' us to pray, b'cos solat meaning in the Quran is much more than what we understand. It is not only pray, it is much more that that.

It is the whole reasons of us being created in the world.

If you take a look in 1:5, " Unto You we shall serve and unto you we shall seek help".

This encompass what is solat plus the conditions set in the Quran in order for Him to complete His favour onto us as per 5:5.

In laymen terms as per "common" understanding it encompass Ibadah, Worship and Dua (It actually is more than this).

This is my understanding of what solat is.

Regards.

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Salam,
I think you can refer here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8_uu2MvV4Y&list=PLHD1Tw5zDhGlJ1dvo4inINT7kBRerA-h-

a video by sam gerrans which he claims to have solve the code of the letters.


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