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Salam Everyone,

This is my understanding on Salat.


1.   General Definition

Duty, Contractual Obligation, Following Closely, Adherence

2.   From Islamic/ Muslim context

Salat consist of 2 main portions or objectives

1.   It is the duty of each and every Muslims which have a contractual obligation to follow closely the commands given by God to us thru the Quran.
2.   To recite and learn the Quran daily (at least) twice a day. The best of time being at dawn and dusk.

3.   Contractual Obligation

Under 1:5 we said to God that “Unto You we served and unto You we seek help”. So, it is our contractual obligation to follow closely every command that God has given to us as per the Quran and it is our obligation to learn this Quran if we are to follow closely all that has been commanded to us to follow.

Amongst these are:

Don't lie (Q22:30)
Don't spy (Q49:12)
Don't insult (Q49:11)
Don't waste (Q17:26)
Feed the poor (Q22:36)
Don't backbite (Q49:12)
Keep your oaths (Q5:89)
Don't take bribes (Q27:36)
Honour your treaties (Q9:4)
Restrain your anger (Q3:134)
Don't spread gossip (Q24:15)
Think good of others (Q24:12)
Be good to guests (Q51:24-27)
Don't harm believers (Q33:58)
Don't be rude to parents (Q17:23)
Turn away from ill speech (Q23:3)
Don't make fun of others (Q49:11)
Walk in a humble manner (Q25:63)
Respond to evil with good (Q41:34)
Don't say what you don't do (Q62:2)
Keep your trusts & promises (Q23:8)
Don't insult others' false gods (Q6:108)
Don't deceive people in trade (Q6:152)
Don't take items without right (Q3:162)
Don't ask unnecessary questions (Q5:101)
Don't be miserly nor extravagant (Q25:67)
Don't call others with bad names (Q49:11)
Don't claim yourselves to be pure (Q53:32)
Speak nicely, even to the ignorant (Q25:63)
Don't ask for repayment for favours (Q76:9)
Make room for others at gatherings (Q58:11)
If enemy wants peace, then accept it (Q8:61)
Return a greeting in a better manner (Q4:86)
Don't remind others of the favours you have done to them (Q2:264)
Make peace between fighting groups (Q49:9)

These are only samples and as we learn and read the Quran there are more.

Thank you.


Salam Jkhan

Thank you Brother.

God bless

Salam Everyone,

i think this video explaination by Brother Joseph Yaseen of Quran Centric will best explain this issue.

Thank you.


Salam Everyone,

While it is good that this issue, one that has been discussed many many times before, without any agreement or conclusion, is being brought up again so that it can be finalized and concluded and agreed by all.

But, I feel that before discussing its timing, don't you think that it is better to agree to get the definition, meaning and objectives of Solat first.

Once this is agreed then the discussion of its timing will have meaning.

We can start on with Bro Wakas article on Salat.

Just my two cent contribution Guys.


General Issues / Questions / Re: Free-Minds.Org 20 Year Anniversary!
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Salat & Zakat (The Contact & Purification) / Re: Salaat
« on: June 21, 2017, 05:21:31 AM »
Thank you for the reply brother wakas.

What I dont understand is why/how is it referring to the messenger?

Sorry if I missed something somewhere.

Salat & Zakat (The Contact & Purification) / Re: Salaat
« on: June 20, 2017, 07:43:55 PM »
Salam Wakas,

In your articles you have said the following;

NB: an important issue that I have only begun to study is that all the "verses"/signs/ayatin which refer to a time for slw are addressed to the messenger in the Arabic singular (unlike other commands, such as "fasting"/abstinence/sawm), thus may not be applicable to everyone. This for example, may solve the problem of unworkable sun-based schedules in northern countries, e.g. Sweden/Norway during some parts of the year. Also, for orbiting astronauts in space. Therefore, it has been suggested that the timing systems described for slw are meant to be taken as an example, not that they should be applicable to everyone everywhere. Thus, instead of morning & evening, it would be at the start of the working day and at the end (implied in 24:58), whatever that may be for each individual. This aspect of this article will be updated as soon as I have researched it thoroughly.
 Please note that 2:185, abstinence is only upon those who are able to witness the month. No such clause exists for salat.

Can I get the ref for what you said that " time for slw are addressed to messenger? (RED)

Thank you.

NB : Thanks also to you and Brother Ayman for your articles on SLW, Muslim & Mumiin.

General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadhan 2:185
« on: May 16, 2017, 08:24:41 AM »
Salam Clash and thanks for the response.

Hmmmm.... I ve to think about this ....
Here its talking not just Shahr.... but Sharu ramadhan.....
However I need to think about what you just said....
Thanks again.

General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadhan 2:185
« on: May 16, 2017, 08:09:28 AM »
Would NOT be witnessing.....

General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadhan 2:185
« on: May 16, 2017, 08:07:30 AM »
From my understanding of this 2: 185 there is no starting of ramadhan and no ending of ramadhan b'cos it refers to one person singular, ie the one witnessing the full moon should fast the next one day.
For a person living in northern parts like alaska or northern norway etc their summer month has no setting of the sun so they would witness a full moon. So its not obligatory on them. You have to witness it yourself.
Thats my understanding on 2: 185 anyway submitter.
Thanks for reading and responding.

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