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General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadan
« on: May 20, 2017, 10:23:47 PM »
An ultimatum from Allah and his messenger
to the polytheists
with whom you have made a treaty (9:1):

"Travel freely in the land FOUR MOONS." (9:2).

The ultimatum was declared
on the day when the believers entered Mecca to take their town back from the polytheists,
that is, June 16 of 630’s shahr ramadan.

New moon… full moon
June 16………June 30

The reason why 
the conqurers had to concede to a treaty of ceasefire   
was this:

It was rather a short time before Mecca’s traditional feast days-hijaj (28:27),
so the sellers had started to prepare their stalls and early comers were everywhere.
If the ceasefire were denied,
they might have been unwittingly trampled upon (48:25).

And on the day of the great pilgrimage
an announcement to the people from Allah and his mesenger:
"If you repent, it is best for you…" (9:3).

That was Dhul Hijjah,
second of the FOUR MOONS mentioned in 9:2,
and it was the time to perform the religious rites called hajj,

Mecca’s commercial feasts and pilgrimage
were simultaneous,
and they happened at the same area. 

you could not perform pilgrimage
during Dhul Hijjah (2:196)
When the FORBIDDEN moons have passed
kill the polytheists wherever you find them

The FOUR MOONS are over,
so kill them
or they will kill you.

When you meet the polythesits,
strike the necks until you overcome them.
Then tie them fast (47:4).

To sum up:

The four forbidden months are successive,
They are not
3 together and 1… months apart.

In the forbiddend moons
it is forbidden
to shed blood, hunting wild animals included (5:1-2, 5:95).

Of the 4 forbidden moons
the first is Shahr Ramadan, hot moon
the scond is Dhul Hijjah, hajj moon.

General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadan
« on: May 19, 2017, 11:32:12 PM »
Peace, Noon.

3. Ramadan always first new month after full moon of summer solstice

Yes, this is the very truth.

false crescent……… crescent/full moon
16 June 2015………..16 June 2015/30 June
05 June 2016………..05 July 2016/19 July
26 May  2017………..23 June 2017/07 July
16 May  2018…….…12 June 2018/27 June
05 May  2019..….….01 July 2019/16 July

16 Jun 2015-15 Jul-13 Aug-12 Sep-11 Oct-10 Nov-09 Dec-08 Jan 2016-07 Feb-08 Mar-07 Apr-07 May-05 June
05 Jul…

The crescent of 05 June is full moon on 19 June
which rises before the longest daytime (June 21),
so it does not belong to the real shahr ramadan.

The crescents, quarter moons, gibbouses, full moons…
which Allah ordained (36:39) on the day He created the skies and the earth (9:36)
rise only in their fixed seasons of the solar year.

Shahr ramadan/hot moon
rises in hot summer,
it never rises in cold winter.

As I tried to explain before,
man can never postpone the 13th moon IN THE SKY because his hands can never reach there.
But they managed to do that ON PAPER which is falsely called islamic calendar:

16 Jun 2015-15 Jul-13 Aug-12 Sep-11 Oct-10 Nov-09 Dec-08 Jan 2016-07 Feb-08 Mar-07 Apr-07 May-
05 June-05 Jul…

General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadan
« on: May 19, 2017, 02:30:32 AM »
During the same time
as the earth rotates around the sun ONCE, the moon rotates around the earth 12 TIMES
which means
the moon’s 12 rotations AND the earth’s 1 rotation…
that is, the two rotations... are simultaneous.

The only difference
is that when the moon has completed its 12 rotations in 354 days
the earth has 11 more days to complete its rotation in 365 days. 

When the 11 days add up to 29.5 days or more,
a 13th moon appears
which means that this time the moon makes 13 rotations around the earth instead of 12
while the earth makes its 1 rotation around the sun
and the two rotations are simultaneous.
If shahr in 9:36 meant lunar month,
13 months would make 383.5 days
and there would be NO ROOM for the whole 383.5 days in the 365-day solar year.

SHAHR in 9:36 can not be a 29.5-day MONTH,
SHAHR in 9:36 is only a 1-night FULL MOON.

What manages to find room for themselves in the 365-day solar year are the 13 full moons
by having certain days from the first of the 13 months in the previous solar year
and by having certain days from the last of the 13 months in the following solar year.

Those certain days are 18.5 days in total (383.5 – 365 = 18.5).

General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadan
« on: May 18, 2017, 06:18:10 PM »

إِنَّ عِدَّةَ الشُّهُورِ عِندَ اللَّهِ اثْنَا عَشَرَ شَهْرًا
       The number of months in the sight of Allah is twelve (in a year).

In 9:36 Allah is saying NOTHING
concerning the solar year
or the lunar year or the luni-solar year
or ANY year system.

All He is saying is
number of the full moons is… twelve,
iddat al-shohoor… isnâ ashere shahr


Another thing He is not saying is
number of the full moons is NOT thirteen.

Allah is saying...: number of "shahr"s is 12.
He is not saying: it is not, it can NOT be 13.

So it is up to you to check to see
whether it can be thirteen as well.

For example
the iddah of 2018-2019...
can it have 13 full moons?

Here is the times of the full moons of the iddah:

27 Jun 2018-26 Jul-24 Aug-23 Sep-22 Oct-21 Nov-21 Dec-20 Jan 2019-18 Feb-20 Mar-19 Apr-18 May-16 Jun
17 Jul 2019...

You do not have to believe these full moon times,
so count the full moons of 2018-2019 YOURSELF.

Next year start with the June moon when it is full
and go on counting until the July moon of 2019.

Please do that to check for yourself
whether the number is 13 or not.

And think
what becomes of the 12-shahr lunar year
when there are 13 "shahr"s up in the sky?

Finally, the word shahr in 9:36...
can it be month (lasting 29.5 days)?
Is it possible?

Ask yourself:

Since the number of the "shahr"s  from June to June/July (that is, a solar year) is 13
and since 13 times 29.5 equals 383.5 days, 
would there be room for those 383.5 days in a 365-day solar year? Is it possible?

General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadan
« on: May 18, 2017, 04:30:39 AM »
Plausible occurs mid-summer or 1st month after full moon summer solstice...


21 Jan 642-20 Feb-22 Mar-20 Apr-19 May-18 Jun-17 Jul-15 Aug-14 Sep-13 Oct-12 Nov-12 Dec
10 Jan 643-09 Feb-11 Mar-10 Apr-09 May-07 Jun-07 Jul-05 Aug-03 Sep-03 Oct-01 Nov-01 Dec-31 Dec
29 Jan 644-28 Feb-29 Mar-27 Apr-27 May-25 Jun-25 Jul-23 Aug-21 Sep-21 Oct-19 Nov-19 Dec
17 Jan 645-16 Feb-18 Mar-16 Apr-16 May-15 Jun-14 Jul-13 Aug-11 Sep-11 Oct-09 Nov-08 Dec
07 Jan 646-05 Feb-07 Mar-05 Apr-05 May-04 Jun-03 Jul-02 Aug-01 Sep-30 Sep-30 Oct-28 Nov-28 Dec
26 Jan 647-24 Feb-26 Mar-24 Apr-24 May-22 Jun-22 Jul-21 Aug-19 Sep-19 Oct-18 Nov-17 Dec


Here iddah is
series of the full moons
from Jan to Jan. 

A series of the full moons
is 12 full moons  (9:36)
عِدَّةَ الشُّهُورِ اثْنَا عَشَرَ شَهْرً

The 354 days of a 12-moon series
fall 11 days shorter than the 365-day solar year,
and this makes the moons come
11 days earlier.

When the 11 days
add up to 29.5 days or more,
a 13th moon appears.

The 13th moon
makes the moons in the next series come
19 days later. 

Time of the full moon
immediately after the summer solstice
is fixed between June 21 and July 21.
That is the shahr ramadan-hot moon.

General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadan
« on: May 17, 2017, 05:44:36 PM »
Noon, you will have to forget about the months of the so-called pure lunar year because they have been concokted after the death of our Prophet (pbuh) by postponing the 13th moon ON PAPER to the next iddah, so they are false.

07 July. 632
27 June 633
16 July. 634
05 July. 635
24 June 636
12 July. 637
01 July. 638
21 June 639
08 July. 640
28 June 641
17 July. 642
07 July. 643

Each iddah (عدة) beginning with the moon which I underlined above has 13 moons. If you postpone the 13th moon to the next iddah, you will get the 12-moon/month lunar year. But you can do that only ON PAPER. Your hands can never reach the moons which Allah created in the sky and you can never postpone them.

27 Jun 633-26 Jul-24 Aug-23 Sep-22 Oct-21 Nov-21 Dec-20 Jan 634-18 Feb-20 Mar-19 Apr-18 May-16 Jun
16 Jul 634…

Since the day Allah created the skies and the earth (9:36) there is no such thing as a moon/lunar month coming 11 days eralier non stop each year. 

Each one of the true moons/lunar months is fixed at a particular time of the solar year. For example the full moon which rises after the longest day of the year is fixed between June 21 and July 21.

All those "shahr jumada al-awwal"s, "shahr ramadhan"s etc... of the pure lunar year (falsely called islamic) are false.

The true moons/lunar months which Allah created are IN THE SKY,
they are not ON PAPER which people call calendar.

General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadan
« on: May 17, 2017, 10:00:35 AM »
I do not know where you get this idea that it was revealed all at once, even taking Layltul Al-Qadr in to account.

This has been discussed before.

right now I think that the most likely scenario is a two-stage revelation. For example, the great reading was descended in two stages. The first stage is iNZAL in one night per year (laylatu al-qadr/shahr ramadan). The second stage is gradual TANZiL to the prophet's heart by the spirit (see 26:192-195, 25:32). In this case, the spirit did indeed confirm what the prophet already had.


What I understand from the relevant ayas is that it was not the whole Quran that was revelead on the hot full moon (the night of decree) but only a reading (a chapter) of it.  I may explain more in detail later.

General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadan
« on: May 17, 2017, 04:49:49 AM »
Plus, we are ordered to fast the shahr:

Whoever witnesses the shahr, let him fast it
فَمَن شَهِدَ مِنكُمُ الشَّهْرَ فَلْيَصُمْهُ

The shahr in 2:185 does not stand for the month of ramadhan,
otherwise it would mean that the reading took the whole month to be revealed.
No, it took only one night.

General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadan
« on: May 17, 2017, 04:03:33 AM »
... shahar does not mean full moon, it means month.

Not always.

In 2:185 shahr means the full moon
just like the night of decree in 97:1.

The shahr ramadhan in which the reading was revealed... - شَهْرُ رَمَضَانَ الَّذِي أُنزِلَ فِيهِ الْقُرْآنُ
We revealed it on the night of decree -إِنَّا أَنزَلْنَاهُ فِي لَيْلَةِ الْقَدْرِ

The reading and it are the same thing
which was revealed in only one night.

The night of the hot full moon = the night of decree.

General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadan
« on: May 17, 2017, 02:52:22 AM »
Ramadan is very clear, 30 days of fasting, dawn to dusk starting on Friday night 5/26 where I live insha'Allah this year of 2017.

30 days is simply impossible.

Because Allah orders
whoever among you witnesses the shahr
to fast it -  فمن شهد منكم ال شهر فليصمه...

That is, they will first witness the shahr
and only after that they will fast it.

This year
May 25 is the day when the moon is dark,
so nobody can witness it on May 25.

They will witness it in the evening of May 26.

May 26 has already passed without fasting when they witness the ramadhan crescent in the evening.
Or else, they will fast the shahr before they witness it against Allah's order.

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