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So what I understand from this verse is that ma malakat aymanakum shouldn't be in male believers' naked presence (i.e. when they wash and change)? Maybe this has a different implication however. Clearly the children amongst the believers are separate from MMA. Why do they need to ask permission, and what would be the difference when they have attained puberty? Also, it is interesting that it is before the dawn commitment and after the evening commitment. So I do not think that this refers to washing after the evening commitment since they would have done that before already. Perhaps it is because they just come home from the gathering place where they upheld the salat with the other believers/the prophet.


What I understand from 24:58 is different.

Ma meleket eymanukun are those whom your oaths relate to you. The status of each of them is defined by your oath. If you made an oath to look after him/her, he/she is in a way your adopted child (33:55). If you made an oath to marry him/her, he/she is your spouse (33:50).

The status of those whom you made an oath to look after is the same as the status of your biological cihildren. It makes no difference whether your biological children have attained to pubetty (24:59) or whether they have NOT attained to puberty  (24:58), they are to ask you as their parents for permission to enter your room at the three times mentioned in 24:58. And so are your mma.

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Pilgrimage (Hajj) / Re: 2:185
« on: September 20, 2017, 08:14:37 AM »
It says to count 12 -- likewise why do you skip count occasional 13th full moon?


No, what God says is not a command,
it is a statement:
"the number of full moons is 12 full moons" -عِدَّةَ الشُّهُورِ ... اثْنَا عَشَرَ شَهْرًا.

However,
God does not say that the number of full moons is NOT 13,
just as He does not say that the moon comes from the east
although He says the sun comes from the east (2:258).

Does He have to say that the moon also comes from the east?
Does He have to say the number is occasionally 13 as you put it?


likewise why do you skip count occasional 13th full moon?

I never do. I never attempt to skip it
because I know I can not skip it
as I have no hands to reach up to skies where it is.

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Pilgrimage (Hajj) / Re: 2:185
« on: September 20, 2017, 05:18:05 AM »
Peace, plausible to use months e.g. count exactly 12 skip occasional 13th full moon between solstices.


The full moons
from one  summer solstice
to the next:

-------1-----------2-------3--------4-------5--------6---------7-----------8------------9-------10------11-------12------13
28 Jun 2018-27 Jul-26 Aug-25 Sep-24 Oct-23 Nov-22 Dec-21 Jan 2019-19 Feb-21 Mar-19 Apr-19 May-17 Jun
17 Jul 2019-15 Aug-14 Sep-14 Ocat-12 Nov-12 Dec-10 Jan 2020-09 Feb-09 Mar-08 Apr-07 May-05 Jun

What do we get when we skip the 13th full moon (17 June 2019)?

What is more,
who gives us the right to remove it from where it is... as if we could
or who gives us the right to skip it AS iF we could?

I say as if
because we do not have hands to reach up to the skies where the 13th full moon is
and remove it from where it is or leave it where it is (skip it), do we?

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Pilgrimage (Hajj) / Re: 2:185
« on: September 20, 2017, 02:49:27 AM »
Peace, plausible to use months e.g. count exactly 12 skip occasional 13th full moon between solstices.

Ramadan (lunar cycle of heat) -- 1st new month (entire moon cycle) after the 1st full moon after the summer solstice for n. hemisphere and likewise 1st new month after the 1st full moon after the winter solstice for s. hemisphere hence there are two each year.


Therefore revelation could occur during summer/winter...


Peace Noon.

If Ramadan which is the time of the revelation mentioned in 2:185 is the 1st lunar month after the 1st full moon after the summer solstice,
the revelation can never occur in winter
because Ramadan is tied to the summer solstice, and the time of summer solstice is fixed in summer.



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Pilgrimage (Hajj) / Re: 2:185
« on: September 18, 2017, 06:27:10 PM »
The "witnessing" here appears to be the witnessing of the Pilgrimage and not just the crescent moon/month:

Peace Layth.

One thing I don't understand is why people so easily fail to see this simple truth:
shahr in 2:185 is the full moon; it is not the month.

The proof is also as simple:

In 1 solar year there can be 13 "shahr"s like in 2015
(https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=2015&country=74).
If shahr were the month lasting 29.5 days, 13 would add up to 383.5 days
and would never find enough room in the solar year lasting only 365 days.

So the "witnessing" in 2:185
is not the witnessing of the Pilgrimage
but the witenessing of the full moon.

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Islamic Calendar & Ramadhan. / Re: Hot/"ramadan" Answer
« on: July 23, 2017, 11:42:32 PM »
At-Taubah 36:

Number of the shahrs with God is twelve shahrs
إِنَّ عِدَّةَ الشُّهُورِ عِندَ اللَّهِ اثْنَا عَشَرَ شَهْرًا

We had better start
with what shahr is.

Shahr is full moon in the Quran
or rather full moon night such as لَيْلَةِ الْقَدْرِ .

Proof is that
in one solar year
sometimes there are 12 shahrs,
sometimes 13. 

For instance
in 2017 there are 12 shahrs (https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=2017&country=74),
in 2018 there are 13 shahrs (https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=2018&country=74).

If shahr meant  29.5-day long lunar month
13 months would add up to 383.5 days
and 383.5 days would not find enough room in the 365-day long solar year.

But there surely is enough room for 13 shahrs in 2018
because shahr is full moon time, that is only 1 night. 

So whoever from you witness the hot fool moon, shall fast it
فَمَن شَهِدَ مِنكُمُ الشَّهْرَ فَلْيَصُمْهُ

You shall fast the hot full moon after you witness it,
that is after July 8 of 2017 (https://www.calendar-12.com/moon_calendar/2017/july)
and after June 28 of 2018.

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadhan 2:185
« on: May 23, 2017, 08:51:09 PM »
Quran has a lunar-solar calender.
If it's merely solar or lunar and not both, we wouldn't know the timing of Ramadhan and we wouldn't know when the 1 extra lunar month is.

The first full moon AFTER June 21, the longest daytime of the year...
let's call it the hot full moon as it initiates the hellish (9:81) hot days.

Notice the arrival of the hot full moon of the year you are in.
If it arrives 19 days later than the previous one, you would know that the 1 extra lunar month is before it
(https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=2015&country=74):

-------1----------2--------3--------4--------5--------6---------7-----------8----------9------10-------11-------12------13
Jul. 02 2015-Jul 31-Aug 29-Sep 28-Oct 27-Nov 25-Dec 25-Jan 24 2016-Feb 22-Mar 23-Apr 22-May 21-Jun 20
Jul. 20 2016-Aug 18-Sep 16-Oct 16-Nov 14-Dec 14-Jan 12 2017-Feb 11-Mar 12-Apr 11-May 10-Jun 09
Jul. 09 2017-Aug 07-Sep 06-Oct 05-Nov 04-Dec 03-Jan 02 2018-Jan 31-Mar 02-Mar 31-Apr 30-May 29

6 is 19 days later than 5 because it was delayed by the 1 extra lunar month of June 20 BEFORE the longest daytime of the year.

*

This year
shahr ramadan is...
July 09.

For muslim believers
fasting starts on the morning of July 10,
after they witness the hot full moon.

Whoever from among you witnesses that full moon shall, then, fast it.
فَمَن شَهِدَ مِنكُمُ الشَّهْرَ فَلْيَصُمْهُ

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadhan 2:185
« on: May 22, 2017, 07:04:41 AM »
Full moon is not equal to hot moon.

You are right,
hot moon is not equal to ANY one of the other 11 or 12 moons of the IDDAH (عدة).
The full phase of the hot moon is the first full moon after the summer solstice;
plus, it is the largest and reddest of them all.

Here are the times of its 9 appearances:

15 Jul. 2011
03 Jul. 2012
23 Jun 2013
12 Jul. 2014
02 Jul. 2015
20 Jul. 2016
09 Jul. 2017
28 Jun 2018
17 Jul. 2019

2:189     
They ask you regarding the crescents, say: “They provide a timing
mechanism
for the people and the Pilgrimage.” And piety is not
that you would enter a home from its back, but piety is whoever
is righteous and comes to the homes from their main doors. And
be aware of God that you may succeed.

And here we learn that the month begins with the first appearance of waxing crescent and not full moon.

I don't understand.

Did somebody say
the month begins with the appearance of full moon?
Who?

As for the crescents mentioned in 2:189,
please remind yourself that they are not waxing
but WAINING crescents.

Proof:

Even in today's practice pilgrimage begins on Dhul Hijjah 10,
which is nearly full moon
and there are only WAINING crescents after Dhul Hijjah 10. 

In fact the ten-day period
should begin with the full moon of Shahr Dhul Hijjah
and end with the first waining crescent.

O-----------D-) (This is the crescent which provides a timing mechanism for the pilgrimage)
I---10 days--I

Probably
main doors of the homes stand for the full moons
and back doors crescents.

... piety is whoever comes to the homes
from their main doors
.

If it's merely solar or lunar and not both, we wouldn't know the timing of Ramadhan and we wouldn't know when the 1 extra lunar month is.

You don't need the lunar year or the luni-solar year or the solar year in order to know when the 1 extra lunar month is. The only thing you need is a lunar calendar like this: https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=2011&country=74

Will you please study
the hot full moon times
I gave you. 

In 2014 the hot full moon arrived 19 days later than the previous hot full moon, which shows that there was an extra lunar month in the previous iddah and that 1 extra moon delayed the arrival of the 2014 moon. I underlined it for you.

There are 2 more extra lunar months in the 10 iddahs, which you can easily spot and underline if you want.

15 Jul. 2011
03 Jul. 2012
23 Jun 2013
12 Jul. 2014
02 Jul. 2015
20 Jul. 2016
09 Jul. 2017
28 Jun 2018
17 Jul. 2019

If you don't believe calendars, you can look up at a hot full moon when it appears, note the time it appears and if it has appeared 19 days later than the previous one you can know that there was 1 extra lunar month in the previous iddah. 

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadhan 2:185
« on: May 22, 2017, 04:27:23 AM »
36:39     
And the moon We have measured it to appear in stages, until it
returns like an old palm sheath.

36:39 does not say stages only but it says descending stages -مَنَازِلَ.

The phases descend from the full moon
down to the very last crescent
which looks like a curved old palm sheath:

O------------->D----------------->) (in south hemisphere)
Full moon--->last quarter------last waning crescent

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadan
« on: May 21, 2017, 12:46:55 AM »
Please allow me to correct:

However,
you could not perform pilgrimage
during Shahr Ramadan (2:196)

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