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General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadhan 2:185
« on: May 23, 2017, 08:51:09 PM »
Quran has a lunar-solar calender.
If it's merely solar or lunar and not both, we wouldn't know the timing of Ramadhan and we wouldn't know when the 1 extra lunar month is.

The first full moon AFTER June 21, the longest daytime of the year...
let's call it the hot full moon as it initiates the hellish (9:81) hot days.

Notice the arrival of the hot full moon of the year you are in.
If it arrives 19 days later than the previous one, you would know that the 1 extra lunar month is before it
(https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=2015&country=74):

-------1----------2--------3--------4--------5--------6---------7-----------8----------9------10-------11-------12------13
Jul. 02 2015-Jul 31-Aug 29-Sep 28-Oct 27-Nov 25-Dec 25-Jan 24 2016-Feb 22-Mar 23-Apr 22-May 21-Jun 20
Jul. 20 2016-Aug 18-Sep 16-Oct 16-Nov 14-Dec 14-Jan 12 2017-Feb 11-Mar 12-Apr 11-May 10-Jun 09
Jul. 09 2017-Aug 07-Sep 06-Oct 05-Nov 04-Dec 03-Jan 02 2018-Jan 31-Mar 02-Mar 31-Apr 30-May 29

6 is 19 days later than 5 because it was delayed by the 1 extra lunar month of June 20 BEFORE the longest daytime of the year.

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This year
shahr ramadan is...
July 09.

For muslim believers
fasting starts on the morning of July 10,
after they witness the hot full moon.

Whoever from among you witnesses that full moon shall, then, fast it.
فَمَن شَهِدَ مِنكُمُ الشَّهْرَ فَلْيَصُمْهُ

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadhan 2:185
« on: May 22, 2017, 07:04:41 AM »
Full moon is not equal to hot moon.

You are right,
hot moon is not equal to ANY one of the other 11 or 12 moons of the IDDAH (عدة).
The full phase of the hot moon is the first full moon after the summer solstice;
plus, it is the largest and reddest of them all.

Here are the times of its 9 appearances:

15 Jul. 2011
03 Jul. 2012
23 Jun 2013
12 Jul. 2014
02 Jul. 2015
20 Jul. 2016
09 Jul. 2017
28 Jun 2018
17 Jul. 2019

2:189     
They ask you regarding the crescents, say: “They provide a timing
mechanism
for the people and the Pilgrimage.” And piety is not
that you would enter a home from its back, but piety is whoever
is righteous and comes to the homes from their main doors. And
be aware of God that you may succeed.

And here we learn that the month begins with the first appearance of waxing crescent and not full moon.

I don't understand.

Did somebody say
the month begins with the appearance of full moon?
Who?

As for the crescents mentioned in 2:189,
please remind yourself that they are not waxing
but WAINING crescents.

Proof:

Even in today's practice pilgrimage begins on Dhul Hijjah 10,
which is nearly full moon
and there are only WAINING crescents after Dhul Hijjah 10. 

In fact the ten-day period
should begin with the full moon of Shahr Dhul Hijjah
and end with the first waining crescent.

O-----------D-) (This is the crescent which provides a timing mechanism for the pilgrimage)
I---10 days--I

Probably
main doors of the homes stand for the full moons
and back doors crescents.

... piety is whoever comes to the homes
from their main doors
.

If it's merely solar or lunar and not both, we wouldn't know the timing of Ramadhan and we wouldn't know when the 1 extra lunar month is.

You don't need the lunar year or the luni-solar year or the solar year in order to know when the 1 extra lunar month is. The only thing you need is a lunar calendar like this: https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=2011&country=74

Will you please study
the hot full moon times
I gave you. 

In 2014 the hot full moon arrived 19 days later than the previous hot full moon, which shows that there was an extra lunar month in the previous iddah and that 1 extra moon delayed the arrival of the 2014 moon. I underlined it for you.

There are 2 more extra lunar months in the 10 iddahs, which you can easily spot and underline if you want.

15 Jul. 2011
03 Jul. 2012
23 Jun 2013
12 Jul. 2014
02 Jul. 2015
20 Jul. 2016
09 Jul. 2017
28 Jun 2018
17 Jul. 2019

If you don't believe calendars, you can look up at a hot full moon when it appears, note the time it appears and if it has appeared 19 days later than the previous one you can know that there was 1 extra lunar month in the previous iddah. 

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadhan 2:185
« on: May 22, 2017, 04:27:23 AM »
36:39     
And the moon We have measured it to appear in stages, until it
returns like an old palm sheath.

36:39 does not say stages only but it says descending stages -مَنَازِلَ.

The phases descend from the full moon
down to the very last crescent
which looks like a curved old palm sheath:

O------------->D----------------->) (in south hemisphere)
Full moon--->last quarter------last waning crescent

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadan
« on: May 21, 2017, 12:46:55 AM »
Please allow me to correct:

However,
you could not perform pilgrimage
during Shahr Ramadan (2:196)

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadan
« on: May 20, 2017, 10:23:47 PM »
An ultimatum from Allah and his messenger
to the polytheists
with whom you have made a treaty (9:1):

"Travel freely in the land FOUR MOONS." (9:2).


The ultimatum was declared
on the day when the believers entered Mecca to take their town back from the polytheists,
that is, June 16 of 630’s shahr ramadan.

New moon… full moon
June 16………June 30

http://astropixels.com/ephemeris/phasescat/phases0601.html

The reason why 
the conqurers had to concede to a treaty of ceasefire   
was this:

It was rather a short time before Mecca’s traditional feast days-hijaj (28:27),
so the sellers had started to prepare their stalls and early comers were everywhere.
If the ceasefire were denied,
they might have been unwittingly trampled upon (48:25).

And on the day of the great pilgrimage
an announcement to the people from Allah and his mesenger:
"If you repent, it is best for you…" (9:3).


That was Dhul Hijjah,
second of the FOUR MOONS mentioned in 9:2,
and it was the time to perform the religious rites called hajj,
pilgrimage.

Mecca’s commercial feasts and pilgrimage
were simultaneous,
and they happened at the same area. 

However,
you could not perform pilgrimage
during Dhul Hijjah (2:196)
 
When the FORBIDDEN moons have passed
kill the polytheists wherever you find them
(9:5).


The FOUR MOONS are over,
so kill them
or they will kill you.

When you meet the polythesits,
strike the necks until you overcome them.
Then tie them fast (47:4).

 
To sum up:

1
The four forbidden months are successive,
They are not
3 together and 1… months apart.

2
In the forbiddend moons
it is forbidden
to shed blood, hunting wild animals included (5:1-2, 5:95).

3
Of the 4 forbidden moons
the first is Shahr Ramadan, hot moon
the scond is Dhul Hijjah, hajj moon.

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadan
« on: May 19, 2017, 11:32:12 PM »
Peace, Noon.

3. Ramadan always first new month after full moon of summer solstice

Yes, this is the very truth.

false crescent………..hot crescent/full moon
16 June 2015………..16 June 2015/30 June
05 June 2016………..05 July 2016/19 July
26 May  2017………..23 June 2017/07 July
16 May  2018…….…12 June 2018/27 June
05 May  2019..….….01 July 2019/16 July


-------1-----------2--------3-------4--------5--------6--------7-----------8-----------9-------10-------11------12-------13
16 Jun 2015-15 Jul-13 Aug-12 Sep-11 Oct-10 Nov-09 Dec-08 Jan 2016-07 Feb-08 Mar-07 Apr-07 May-05 June
05 Jul…

The crescent of 05 June is full moon on 19 June
which rises before the longest daytime (June 21),
so it does not belong to the real shahr ramadan.

The crescents, quarter moons, gibbouses, full moons…
which Allah ordained (36:39) on the day He created the skies and the earth (9:36)
rise only in their fixed seasons of the solar year.

Shahr ramadan/hot moon
rises in hot summer,
it never rises in cold winter.

As I tried to explain before,
man can never postpone the 13th moon IN THE SKY because his hands can never reach there.
But they managed to do that ON PAPER which is falsely called islamic calendar:

-------1-----------2--------3-------4--------5--------6--------7-----------8-----------9-------10-------11------12-------13
16 Jun 2015-15 Jul-13 Aug-12 Sep-11 Oct-10 Nov-09 Dec-08 Jan 2016-07 Feb-08 Mar-07 Apr-07 May-
05 June-05 Jul…

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadan
« on: May 19, 2017, 02:30:32 AM »
During the same time
as the earth rotates around the sun ONCE, the moon rotates around the earth 12 TIMES
which means
the moon’s 12 rotations AND the earth’s 1 rotation…
that is, the two rotations... are simultaneous.

The only difference
is that when the moon has completed its 12 rotations in 354 days
the earth has 11 more days to complete its rotation in 365 days. 

When the 11 days add up to 29.5 days or more,
a 13th moon appears
which means that this time the moon makes 13 rotations around the earth instead of 12
while the earth makes its 1 rotation around the sun
and the two rotations are simultaneous.
 
If shahr in 9:36 meant lunar month,
13 months would make 383.5 days
and there would be NO ROOM for the whole 383.5 days in the 365-day solar year.

So
SHAHR in 9:36 can not be a 29.5-day MONTH,
SHAHR in 9:36 is only a 1-night FULL MOON.

What manages to find room for themselves in the 365-day solar year are the 13 full moons
by having certain days from the first of the 13 months in the previous solar year
and by having certain days from the last of the 13 months in the following solar year.

Those certain days are 18.5 days in total (383.5 – 365 = 18.5).

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadan
« on: May 18, 2017, 06:18:10 PM »

إِنَّ عِدَّةَ الشُّهُورِ عِندَ اللَّهِ اثْنَا عَشَرَ شَهْرًا
       The number of months in the sight of Allah is twelve (in a year).


In 9:36 Allah is saying NOTHING
concerning the solar year
or the lunar year or the luni-solar year
or ANY year system.

All He is saying is
that
number of the full moons is… twelve,
iddat al-shohoor… isnâ ashere shahr
.

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Another thing He is not saying is
that
number of the full moons is NOT thirteen.

Allah is saying...: number of "shahr"s is 12.
He is not saying: it is not, it can NOT be 13.

So it is up to you to check to see
whether it can be thirteen as well.

For example
the iddah of 2018-2019...
can it have 13 full moons?

Here is the times of the full moons of the iddah:

-------1------------2-------3--------4--------5--------6--------7-----------8------------9------10-------11-------12------13
27 Jun 2018-26 Jul-24 Aug-23 Sep-22 Oct-21 Nov-21 Dec-20 Jan 2019-18 Feb-20 Mar-19 Apr-18 May-16 Jun
17 Jul 2019...

You do not have to believe these full moon times,
so count the full moons of 2018-2019 YOURSELF.

Next year start with the June moon when it is full
and go on counting until the July moon of 2019.

Please do that to check for yourself
whether the number is 13 or not.

And think
what becomes of the 12-shahr lunar year
when there are 13 "shahr"s up in the sky?

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Finally, the word shahr in 9:36...
can it be month (lasting 29.5 days)?
Is it possible?

Ask yourself:

Since the number of the "shahr"s  from June to June/July (that is, a solar year) is 13
and since 13 times 29.5 equals 383.5 days, 
would there be room for those 383.5 days in a 365-day solar year? Is it possible?

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadan
« on: May 18, 2017, 04:30:39 AM »
Plausible occurs mid-summer or 1st month after full moon summer solstice...

Definitely.

------1-----------2-------3--------4--------5---------6-------7-------8--------9-------10------11-------12------13
21 Jan 642-20 Feb-22 Mar-20 Apr-19 May-18 Jun-17 Jul-15 Aug-14 Sep-13 Oct-12 Nov-12 Dec
10 Jan 643-09 Feb-11 Mar-10 Apr-09 May-07 Jun-07 Jul-05 Aug-03 Sep-03 Oct-01 Nov-01 Dec-31 Dec
29 Jan 644-28 Feb-29 Mar-27 Apr-27 May-25 Jun-25 Jul-23 Aug-21 Sep-21 Oct-19 Nov-19 Dec
17 Jan 645-16 Feb-18 Mar-16 Apr-16 May-15 Jun-14 Jul-13 Aug-11 Sep-11 Oct-09 Nov-08 Dec
07 Jan 646-05 Feb-07 Mar-05 Apr-05 May-04 Jun-03 Jul-02 Aug-01 Sep-30 Sep-30 Oct-28 Nov-28 Dec
26 Jan 647-24 Feb-26 Mar-24 Apr-24 May-22 Jun-22 Jul-21 Aug-19 Sep-19 Oct-18 Nov-17 Dec
 

Notes:

1.
Here iddah is
series of the full moons
from Jan to Jan. 

2.
A series of the full moons
is 12 full moons  (9:36)
عِدَّةَ الشُّهُورِ اثْنَا عَشَرَ شَهْرً

3.
The 354 days of a 12-moon series
fall 11 days shorter than the 365-day solar year,
and this makes the moons come
11 days earlier.

3.
When the 11 days
add up to 29.5 days or more,
a 13th moon appears.

4.
The 13th moon
makes the moons in the next series come
19 days later. 

5.
Time of the full moon
immediately after the summer solstice
is fixed between June 21 and July 21.
That is the shahr ramadan-hot moon.

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General Issues / Questions / Re: Ramadan
« on: May 17, 2017, 05:44:36 PM »
Noon, you will have to forget about the months of the so-called pure lunar year because they have been concokted after the death of our Prophet (pbuh) by postponing the 13th moon ON PAPER to the next iddah, so they are false.

Full
moonyear
07 July. 632
27 June 633
16 July. 634
05 July. 635
24 June 636
12 July. 637
01 July. 638
21 June 639
08 July. 640
28 June 641
17 July. 642
07 July. 643

Each iddah (عدة) beginning with the moon which I underlined above has 13 moons. If you postpone the 13th moon to the next iddah, you will get the 12-moon/month lunar year. But you can do that only ON PAPER. Your hands can never reach the moons which Allah created in the sky and you can never postpone them.

1--------------2------3--------4--------5--------6--------7---------8-------------9-------10-------11------12------13
27 Jun 633-26 Jul-24 Aug-23 Sep-22 Oct-21 Nov-21 Dec-20 Jan 634-18 Feb-20 Mar-19 Apr-18 May-16 Jun
16 Jul 634…

Since the day Allah created the skies and the earth (9:36) there is no such thing as a moon/lunar month coming 11 days eralier non stop each year. 

Each one of the true moons/lunar months is fixed at a particular time of the solar year. For example the full moon which rises after the longest day of the year is fixed between June 21 and July 21.

All those "shahr jumada al-awwal"s, "shahr ramadhan"s etc... of the pure lunar year (falsely called islamic) are false.

The true moons/lunar months which Allah created are IN THE SKY,
they are not ON PAPER which people call calendar.

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