Quote from: theNabster on January 26, 2014, 07:04:41 PM
thank you...
I am very convinced the moderate consumption of alcohol is not haram...
and that the excessive consumption of alcohol can lead someone to abomination and haram, and therefore is not advisable...
there is no commandment asking not to consume alcohol in the Quran...
the commandment is not to follow Satan's lures and machinations...
this is what I will answer someone who asks me for advice about this matter... which is the same advice I give myself...
as an exhibit, there is a commandment not to pray while being drunk, with alcohol or any other mind altering drugs, as sukara means inebriated, and you can also get inebriated with opium, heroin, marijuana, etc.
by the way I also agree with the use of marijuana for medicinal purposes, now go ahead and criticise me, LOL!
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there is no commandment asking not to consume alcohol in the Quran...
And this is the disagreement.
Verse 5:90 does forbid Alcohol.
Quotethe commandment is not to follow Satan's lures and machinations
Yes. And those "lures and machinations" [Rijs] are . . . gambling, intoxicant, arrows, etc. Hence - Alcohol is forbidden.
"O you who have believed, indeed, intoxicants, gambling, [sacrificing on] stone alters [to other than Allah ], and divining arrows are but defilement from the work of Satan, so avoid it [the defilement] that you may be successful."