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Some years ago Emanuel Rutte developed a new metaphysical argument for the existence of God.

I recommend to start with the "initial" version before starting with the extended/revised version.
Comprehension of logic or an intuitive feeling for logic is necessary.

A Modal-Epistemic Argument for the Existence of God
A Modal-Epistemic Argument for the Existence of God revised

[the story]

Just read about this Brazilian guy today on a dutch news site, it's about a guy who disappeared and left some strange signs behind.
It seems it's already a couple of weeks old story.
Anyway here is the story

Results of the poll so far:

Where is Bruno Borgas?
Abducted by aliens  21%
Gone mad and vanished  18%
Kidnapped  5%
Hiding somewhere  29%
Turned into the statue of Giordano Bruno  6%
Never existed  5%
I'M BRUNO BORGAS  16%

What do you think?

[Ibrahim]

Ibrahim: She has resided part of her progeny on the other side of the road without vegetation, near the holy house 

Firaun: I will cut off her hands and feet from alternate sides, and I will crucify her on the trunks of the palm trees, and you will come to know which of us is greater in retribution and more lasting! 

Yusuf: Because I saw her ages ago in my dream 

"Cleopatra": A refreshment of the eye to me and to thee -- slay her not; maybe she will be useful to us, or we may take her as a pet 

Father of Yusuf: Don?t narrate this incident to her sisters or they will plan against her 

Malaikats: She wants to make corruption on the other side, and spill blood, while we praise God?s glory and exalt Him 

Harun: Son of my mother, do not grab me by my beard nor by my head , this chicken of Israel overpowered me and nearly killed me 

Isa: I create for you from clay the form of a chicken, then I blow into it and it becomes a chicken, with the permission of God, and I heal the blind and the lepers, and give life to the dead with the permission of God, and I prophesize for you what you shall eat and what to store in your homes (extremely ). But I do not know what is in this chicken, only He knows the unseen 

Meryem: I have vowed an abstinence for the Almighty, so I will not talk today to any of mankind 

Musa: She saw a fire, so she said to her chicks: "Stay here, I have seen a fire, perhaps I can bring a piece from it, or find at the fire some guidance 

A messenger: Why do you ask me? My only duty was to deliver the message 

Nuh: Alone? It was clearly commanded from every sort a pair 

Zekeriya: How can she cross the road when her husband is infertile, and she reached a very old age?   

"Alkihdr": She had no patience with me 

Dhul Qarnayn: Help me with strength and I will make between you and her a landfill 

Sulayman: I will punish her severely, or I will kill her, else she should have a clear excuse   

Earth and heavens: We are more concerned if she did it willingly or unwillingly 

Dawud: She has wronged you by crossing the road. And many who cross the road take advantage of one another, except those who believe and do good works, and these are very few 

Satan: I beautified the other side for her and promised her eternal life 

Hud: O you, worship God; you have no other god but He. you are only inventing lies 

Brothers of Jusuf: Why do you not trust us with this chicken? We will take care of her 

Shu3ayb: Without knowing the exact measurement of the road and the exact weight of the chicken, I can not give you the exact reason 

Ayuub: Did she rapidly move with her feet? 

Saleh: She is a chicken of God, in her you have a sign. So let her cross God's road freely, and do not harm her, or else a close retribution will take you 

God: I know what you do not know 

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But would be of course very nice when you use a photo to credit the author.

@mods maybe if it is possible you can put the content of this post on the first page of the photography thread and delete this thread.

Great work!!!

Lastday3 and MoF will be very happy 

Suppose you are a dictator of a country. You can do whatever you want, you are the boss.
Then what will you do with the homosexuals in your country?

Just like to see the opinion of free-minds people.

If you were an American who lives in the US, who will get your vote?
No one is not an option.


edit: Tump is of course Trump 
To the mods: Why can't I modify that?

Probably a coup going on in Turkey right now.

[news]

Couple of days ago there was this news.

I have absolutely no pity for this man.
Actually every time I read such news I 
Am I a psychopath?

How is it possible that these kind of entertainments are still allowed?
What do you think, are these kind of entertainments ok?

Great speech

Salaam,

There is one group in the quran where no single verse speaks good about them. This group is known as "KAFIRS".
I took a look at some translations and this is what I found how translators/interpretators translate/interpret this word.
- Unbelievers
- Disbelievers
- Deniers of the truth
- Infidels
- Faithless ones
- Rejecters of Faith
- Rejecters
With these translations/interpretations, not only does the quran come over as a brutal book but in a lot of verses these interpretations do no make sense.
For example Iblies is a kafir and translators insist that Iblies is an unbeliever.
Also translation/interpretation of "kafir" should not be a word with a negation, like "UNbelievers" because there is simply no negation in the word kafir.
"Infidels" is imo also badly chosen because there are a lot of good "infidels".

So what does kafir mean if it is a word that is so bad that there is not a single positive thing in the quran about it?
I think the only word which is always bad, is evil it self. Is there anyone who can think of something positive in evil?
So imo kafir means something like: "evil/evil ones/bad ones/etc etc etc"
I think a lot of verses wil make a lot of sense when you take this interpretation.

What do you think?

Salaam,
Bender

[Hatta itha balagha maghriba alshshamsi wajadaha taghrubu fee AAaynin hamiatin wawajada AAindaha qawman qulna ya tha alqarnayni imma an tuAAaththiba waimma an tattakhitha feehim husnan]

Salaam,

I have been on a atheist-forum and there was a section with blunders in The Quran.
One of the blunders in The Quran is the famous verse were the sun is setting at/in a hot spring or something similar.
Here are my thoughts on it, I might be totally wrong.

18:86  حَتَّىٰ إِذَا بَلَغَ مَغْرِبَ الشَّمْسِ وَجَدَهَا تَغْرُبُ فِي عَيْنٍ حَمِئَةٍ وَوَجَدَ عِندَهَا قَوْمًا ۗ قُلْنَا يَا ذَا الْقَرْنَيْنِ إِمَّا أَن تُعَذِّبَ وَإِمَّا أَن تَتَّخِذَ فِيهِمْ حُسْنًا
18:86 Hatta itha balagha maghriba alshshamsi wajadaha taghrubu fee AAaynin hamiatin wawajada AAindaha qawman qulna ya tha alqarnayni imma an tuAAaththiba waimma an tattakhitha feehim husnan

If you look at the structure of the red part it's the same as the red part in 91:11

91:11  فَقَالَ لَهُمْ رَسُولُ اللَّـهِ نَاقَةَ اللَّـهِ وَسُقْيَاهَا
91:11 Faqala lahum rasoolu Allahi naqata Allahi wasuqyaha

In 91:11 "  وَسُقْيَاهَا " does not refer to "Allahi" but to "naqata Allahi".

Thus it looks to me that "وَجَدَهَا" in 18:90 does not refer to alshshamsi but to "maghriba alshshamsi", 2 different things.

btw same for
18:90  حَتَّىٰ إِذَا بَلَغَ مَطْلِعَ الشَّمْسِ وَجَدَهَا تَطْلُعُ عَلَىٰ قَوْمٍ لَّمْ نَجْعَل لَّهُم مِّن دُونِهَا سِتْرًا
18:90 Hatta itha balagha matliAAa alshshamsi wajadaha tatluAAu AAala qawmin lam najAAal lahum min dooniha sitran

Salaam,
Bender

Salaam all,

After a couple of years being active on this forum (lately not so active) I am going to take a pause from this forum.
I do not know for how long, when the time is right I will show up again inshaAllah.
I like to thank you all for the great time I had on this forum.
For those who I wronged, I am very sorry, I hope you will forgive me.

I am sure I am going to forget a lot of people, but I still like to thank and say a couple of words to some people, sorry to those who I forgot.

_Ala_  -- You did not write much and probably do not even know me but I really liked your posts, thank you.
Ayman -- Thank you for all your posts and hard work, I really learned a lot from you.
Abdelilah -- my Bruce Lee friend from Belguim, thank you.
Bahman -- Thank you for trying to teach me with patience about interlock.
Diamantinehoneybunch -- I just read your last post, you are not an apostate! I hope some day you will come back to this forum.
Drfazl -- Thanks for some exellent posts, I learned a lot from you.
Drgm -- same as drfazl, Thanks for some exellent posts, I learned a lot from you.
Es -- Thank you for being my friend.
Fallen Angel 21098 -- I hope some day you will come back to this forum, thank you for your posts.
Good logic --  We did not agree most of time with each other but I still enjoyed our discussions, thank you!
Haniefa -- May Allah give you the best! Thank you!
Hicham9 -- May Allah give you the best! Thank you!
Huruf --  Thank you for being my friend and for your posts full of wisdom!!!
Ikrame -- You were the first one to reply to my first post  thank you!!
Indelwyn -- May Allah bless you and your kids!!!
Javed1 -- May Allah give you the best! Thank you!
Layth -- Thank you for this forum! May Allah reward you with the best.
Maha -- Thank you for being my friend!
Man of Faith -- Thank you for our discussions and your posts.
Mazhar -- not always agreeing with each other but thank you for our discussions and teaching me grammar.
Mmkhan -- My big brother. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING. May Allah bless you   (mmkhan style  )
Noon waalqalami -- Thank you for all your posts and hard work, I really learned a lot from you.
Pazuzu -- same as noon, Thank you for all your posts and hard work, I really learned a lot from you.
SAbboushi -- I really like you as a human and I really like your excellent posts, thank you!!
SavageCarrot -- THANK YOU!!! inshaAllah, when I come back I will be ready for you 
Scaredmuslimah -- You are one of the most beautifull people who have been on this forum, an example for all of us, may Allah always bless you and take care of you where ever you are 
SeekingYou -- Only a little bit active on this forum but you have taken my level of understanding to higher level, thank you!
Student of Allah -- I am very sorry that you do not believe in Allah anymore. thank you for your posts!
Wakas -- Thank you for all your posts and hard work, I really learned a lot from you.
Wasi -- Thank you for being my friend!
Zulf -- Thank you for all your wonderfull posts full of wisdom!

I am sure I forgot a lot of people and probably even friends 
Thanks again all of you (the ones I mentioned and the ones I forgot) May Allah bless you all 

For the newcomers and the people I do not know: please read/study the posts and topics of the people mentioned above, take the best of it (not easiest or most difficult but the best) and follow that. I am 100% sure that Allah has sent a lot of them as clear messengers.

goodbye,
Bender

ps those who want to stay in touch with me, I just made a new emailadress, feel free to email me on:
b1e2n3d4e5r@outlook.com
Only thing is that I will probably not reply to you for a very long time but inshaAllah when the time is right I will reply to you.

    HUP HOLLAND HUP 

[38:21 Did the news come to you of the disputing party who came over into the temple enclosure? 38:22 When they entered upon David, he was startled by them. They said: "Have no fear. We are two who have disputed, and one has wronged the other, so judge between us with the truth, and do not wrong us, and guide us to the right path." 38:23 "This is my brother and he owns ninety-nine lambs, while I own one lamb; so he said to me: "'Let me take care of it' and he pressured me." 38:24 He said: "He has wronged you by asking to combine your lamb with his lambs. And many who mix their properties take advantage of one another, except those who believe and do good works, and these are very few." And David guessed that We had tested him, so he sought forgiveness from his Lord, and fell down kneeling, and repented. 38:25 So We forgave him in this matter. And for him with Us is a near position, and a beautiful abode. 38:26 O David, We have made you a successor on the earth. Therefore, you shall judge among the people with the truth, and do not follow desire, lest it diverts you from the path of God. Indeed, those who stray off the path of God will have a severe retribution for forgetting the Day of Reckoning.]

Salaamun alaykum,

Whenever I read or heard the following verses it never made any sense to me, but alhamdullilah today by "accident" I was reading those verses and Allah gave me a  .

fm translation, translation is not important here.
38:21 Did the news come to you of the disputing party who came over into the temple enclosure?
38:22 When they entered upon David, he was startled by them. They said: "Have no fear. We are two who have disputed, and one has wronged the other, so judge between us with the truth, and do not wrong us, and guide us to the right path."
38:23 "This is my brother and he owns ninety-nine lambs, while I own one lamb; so he said to me: "'Let me take care of it' and he pressured me."
38:24 He said: "He has wronged you by asking to combine your lamb with his lambs. And many who mix their properties take advantage of one another, except those who believe and do good works, and these are very few." And David guessed that We had tested him, so he sought forgiveness from his Lord, and fell down kneeling, and repented.
38:25 So We forgave him in this matter. And for him with Us is a near position, and a beautiful abode.
38:26 O David, We have made you a successor on the earth. Therefore, you shall judge among the people with the truth, and do not follow desire, lest it diverts you from the path of God. Indeed, those who stray off the path of God will have a severe retribution for forgetting the Day of Reckoning.

I never understood the red part. In what was Dawood tested and why did he sought forgiveness for his mistake?

What do you think?

Salaam,
Bender