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Alhamdhulillah, the truth can be found if we sincerely search for it.

I found the following video very interesting and would like to share with you all for those who dig internet for evidence

This video is about examining the historical and archaeological records of Noah's ark discovery and it is worth watching full to appreciate the information contain in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUtJOgi7PqY

I invite everyone to post links about information of this sort and point out the misinformation presented in the links here

Thank you

I found this from the site comments section
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This has been discussed in 2007 in Germany and the brochures "K?rper, Liebe, Doktorspiele" have been withdrawn at that time.

It is generally empowering children of age 4+ to get a positive and self-determined approach to their sensuality - and also to say "No" to things they don't want. It doesn't go beyond tickling the belly button. Neither masturbation nor any genital details are mentioned or alluded to.

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I think this is not a case of 'auto-destruction' at all, but of a rather sinister attempt to poison German society and to blacken the character of the vast majority of people there who are people like those anywhere else, perfectly sensible and normal. Politicians of a certain corrupt nature are often psychopathic, and all over the world they attempt to foist all manner of highly questionable practices on their citizens. For far worse and utterly hellish obscenity, that is well tolerated by the majority of Judeo-Christian society, we only have to google pictures of horrifically deformed babies created by the depleted uranium weapons of our insane politicians. O'Brien misleads us all, by stating that it is 'a natural outcome of the rejection of the Judeo-Christian moral order. For truly factual information about this so called source of 'moral order' please refer to the the following article;  http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/talmud2.htm

In nature determinism and free-will do exit at the same time. We all know that.

The universe is not chaotic but orderly and follows by the rule of mathematics. That's why we are able to compute calenders for seasons, cultivation or navigation with respect to sun, moon distance stars or constellations since the ancient time.

However we know that by mathematics that determinism is only possible within the limits of uncertainty principle. Heisenberg?s uncertainty principle is a fundamental, inescapable property of the world. We cannot determine everything including human behavior (including free-will) no matter how advance we get. 1 + 1 = 2 always

Now how this is related to the existence of the god? Difficult to describe but since there is a limit for determinism alone is enough for me to think logical of existence of god.

This is just what I think about Determinism and Existence of God.

Peace

For those who haven't seen this video please watch this from beginning to end without skipping. Lots of crucial questions are asked and RK answers by himself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWVsaSy9HXg&list=PLDBE012C44E64635F

What I think is that pharaoh Akhenaten was a brother of pharaoh Tuthmosis. It was proven scientifically they are related. Tuthmosis is the pharaoh of the Prophet Moses time. The name Akhenaten, Akhen mean slave and atan mean god. Like a name similar to Abdullah. It's not his real name. His real name was something like Amenhotep IV. I feel that prophet Moses name is somewhat drive from the powerful pharaoh Tuthmosis whose wife was the one adopted the Prophet Moses.

We can see in the Quran that in the pharaoh's family there are people who are monotheist and they are very powerful in the royal family.

40:28 A believing man among Pharaoh's people, who was concealing his belief, said, "How can you kill a man just for saying, `My Lord is God,' and he has shown you clear proofs from your Lord? If he is a liar, that is his problem, and if he is truthful, you benefit from his promises. Surely, God does not guide any transgressor, liar.
40:29 "O my people, today you have kingship and the upperhand. But who will help us against God's judgment, should it come to us?" Pharaoh said, "You are to follow only what I see fit; I will guide you only in the right path."
40:30 The one who believed said, "O my people, I fear for you the same fate as the previous opponents.
40:31 "The opponents of Noah, and `?d, Thamoud, and others who came after them. God does not wish any injustice for the people.
40:32 "O my people, I fear for you the Day of Summoning.
40:33 "That is the day when you may wish to turn around and flee. But nothing will protect you then from God. Whomever God sends astray, nothing can guide him."
40:34 Joseph had come to you before that with clear revelations, but you continued to doubt his message. Then, when he died you said, "God will not send any other messenger after him. God thus sends astray those who are transgressors, doubtful.
40:35 They argue against God's revelations, without any basis. This is a trait that is most abhorred by God and by those who believe. God thus seals the hearts of every arrogant tyrant.
40:36 Pharaoh said, "O H?m?n, build for me a high tower, that I may reach out and discover.
40:37 "I want to reach the heaven, and take a look at the god of Moses. I believe he is a liar." Thus were the evil works of Pharaoh adorned in his eyes, and thus was he kept from following (the right) path. Pharaoh's scheming was truly evil.
40:38 The one who believed said, "O my people, follow me, and I will guide you in the right way.
40:39 "O my people, this first life is a temporary illusion, while the Hereafter is the eternal abode."
40:40 Whoever commits a sin is requited for just that, and whoever works righteousness - male or female - while believing, these will enter Paradise wherein they receive provisions without any limits.
40:41 "O my people, while I invite you to be saved, you invite me to the hellfire.
40:42 "You invite me to be unappreciative of God, and to set up beside Him idols that I do not recognize. I am inviting you to the Almighty, the Forgiver.
40:43 "There is no doubt that what you invite me to do has no basis in this world, nor in the Hereafter, that our ultimate return is to God, and that the transgressors have incurred the hellfire.
40:44 "Some day you will remember what I am telling you now. I leave the judgment of this matter to God; God is the Seer of all the people."
40:45 God then protected him from their evil schemes, while the people of Pharaoh have incurred the worst retribution.

[reasons by some chance]

Life is complicate and it looks like it is designed to force us to think despite our culture, desires or religion or whatever. We are free to believe what ever we want with absolute freedom.

How things are and how we think of things are two different thing.

Atheism is not a new religion. Thinking things happens in life is due to reasons by some chance is easy. But sometimes it is not. Sometimes things happen and we know some atheists have opted to knocking the doors of theism.

It's true where there are majority the minority is condemn. If I am in a majority atheist forum I am usually condemn for my belief. Even for saying simple things like the universe must have a god because it's not eternal and is only around 14 billion years of age and so there is not enough time in terms of probability to arrange all these things from sub-atomic particles to atoms to molecules to stars to planets to living creatures just by chance only. Science also have fairy tales like stories when it comes to explain genesis with strings theory, quantum-mechanics, membranes and multiverse etc.

I don't feel logical to think everything that happened in my life is by chance because I have experienced very improbable things myself. The only ways for me to explain those things is by something other than chance.

Peace

Please watch this video and look at some of the history and evidences about Noah ark. I know most of videos are fake and made to play with people feelings but this video is not a waste of time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVCvzGr7h1g

It's pity that this thread didn't continue with good information. But this is an interesting thread that Confused has open up. In the way of life it's reasonable or even forced to think more than what you are used to believe or think.

We need to be able to discuss with respect to everyone's thinking and without imposing our self-understanding to others. Everybody have different life experiences and and we have different ways to understand life and how to live it. That's what I call religion or "way of life"

From this kind of forums the most valuable things I learn are How and why people think the way they think or believe. It helps me to understand life better. The purpose of life? Why we exists?

StopS asked a question to GoodLogic.

I am starting to doubt the logics of your logics.

Could you please explain what you mean by: "open" your mind?

Is your mind open enough to accept Thor as a god? Or are you so close minded that you will immediately reject any notion that Thor could be a god?
Have you closed your mind to the fact that Allah is the only god for you?
If you are so close minded on an issue, why do you expect others to be open minded on the very same issue?

Let me try to answer the question.

I am open minded enough to listen all that you say and think rationally about it. I am courage enough to accept the truth even though I don't like it or it hurts my feelings.

StopS said

Have you closed your mind to the fact that Allah is the only god for you?

No. Actually I think only God is the God. When I say "Laa Ilaaha Illallah" I mean "there is no god except the god". So I don't think Thor or Allah can be the god.

I like when you say

If a god is omniscient, he will know what evidence I require.
If a god is omnipotent, he can provide the evidence I require.
If a god is merciful, he will provide the evidence I require.

Anyone can believe in anything. A person can believe 1 + 1 = 5 too. But beliefs without reason or proof is just wishful thinking. 1 + 1 = 2 in reality even some of us may not like that.

I am happy I meet you truth-seeking people. Wish you good health and good life and better understanding of life.

"The ones who listen to all that is said, then follow the best. These are the ones whom God has guided; these are the ones who possess intelligence." (Qur?an 39:18)